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  • It's an interesting problem in a way- when there is no ASL cyclists and motorcyclists tend to filter to the front then stop in front of the stop line.

    Would you make people wait in line if you enforced ASL's rigourously, and fined the cyclists that went over the line as if they had jumped the red?

    And on the subject of ASL violations- surely the answer is to make them the same fixed penalty that cyclists get for jumping a red, £30 (or whatever it is) and no points.

    Agree to the last - maybe one point on the FPN would be good. I should mention that the max penalty for a car RLJ is six points and £1000 if they take it to the mags court.

    Re ASLs: I understand they were introduced partly for that reason - cycles and m/cs go to the front anyway. I don't think there's anything to be done about that. In many situations it's sensible and safe to be at the front of the queue.

    But I think they encourage the idea that it's ALWAYS safe to filter to the front - especially in new cyclists who also think it's always safe to cling to the kerb. They also encourage those nodders who wobble in front of me at every red and then cycle at a snail's pace...

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