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• #3876
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• #3877
The way I heard it this morning on R4, they made out like it was a new statement by Bradley after his hearing of it. I'd like confirmation on this, I'll be angry at the Beeb otherwise. They should make it clear.
If he did, it's a shame as I've had such positive feelings towards Wiggo over the past weeks (obviously) but now I think he's a bit of a tit. I wear a helmet myself, but have never supported mandatory helmet wearing for reasons discussed in the last 79 pages of the thread.
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• #3878
So should there be a ban on mobile phones for peds?
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• #3879
To be fair to pedestrians they're just endangering themselves. When we're on a mobiles we're distracted whilst travelling at 12-20mph. It's a bit of a different thing.
I don't know what happened to this county being socially responsible, but making everything 'the law' isn't going to help in this regard. If anything it shifts responsibility of your actions onto the state. "Well there isn't a law against it" etc.
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• #3880
Like TW2 says disengenuous. It wouldn't be unlike journalists to stitch 2 current stories together to create more news. I'm prepared to err on this one, now I realise it could be an old quote.
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• #3881
GoIng back to helmets, there is an interview with Chris Boardman in the BBC website atm where he talks about the tech in the Team GB track cycling teams, including helmets with aluminium honeycomb lining rather than conventional foam. How long before we start seeing tech like this available to "civilian" riders?
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• #3882
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• #3883
To be fair to pedestrians they're just endangering themselves. When we're on a mobiles we're distracted whilst travelling at 12-20mph. It's a bit of a different thing.
I don't know what happened to this county being socially responsible, but making everything 'the law' isn't going to help in this regard. If anything it shifts responsibility of your actions onto the state. "Well there isn't a law against it" etc.
You can text and cycle?
Its more that the peds are like zombies and not aware what is going on around them.Ah it always has to be someones fault and never yours. When I fell off pissed, it was the pubs fault for giving me beer.
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• #3884
GoIng back to helmets, there is an interview with Chris Boardman in the BBC website atm where he talks about the tech in the Team GB track cycling teams, including helmets with aluminium honeycomb lining rather than conventional foam. How long before we start seeing tech like this available to "civilian" riders?
And this would help how?
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• #3885
Wiggo calls for CrashHelmets to be make legal while on a Bike on the road.
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• #3886
Kevin, you is slow.
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• #3887
So should there be a ban on mobile phones for peds?
Going by the helmet-less, light-less, chino and flip-flop wearing twonk riding a Bianchi whilst holding his iphone to his ear with his shoulder lastnight; Yes.
Absolutely NO clue how much danger he was putting himself in riding down Fulham palace road with 1/2 a dozen double deckers screaming past him....
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• #3888
To be fair to pedestrians they're just endangering themselves. When we're on a mobiles we're distracted whilst travelling at 12-20mph. It's a bit of a different thing.
So when I got laid out cold for 15 minutes and spent a day in hospital all because 2 Japanese women stepped out in-front of me, while both nattering away, while at a RED man I might add - they were just endangering themselves.
Road users should NOT use any mobile device while driving because it's a huge distraction. Likewise pedestrians on the phone should at the very least give enough of a fuck about their own safety that their actions reduce the risk to the likes of cyclists and motorcyclists at least for the 5 seconds or so it might take to cross.
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• #3889
Peds crossing the road without looking = force me to be more aware/ride according to the surrounding.
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• #3890
With your spideysense.
Peds and phones is not the point of this thread (I'm not sure what the point of this bloody thread is). Everyone with a mobile is more than capable of looking both ways before crossing a street while talking on the phone.
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• #3891
Kevin, you is slow.
Kevin, you've been Scobled
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• #3892
Wearing a helmet while riding is personal choice, pro's and cons either way. It should be noted that a helmet does not make a decent coffee carrier, and when said coffee spills in said helmet, you sweat coffee from your head on your ride home as you forgot what you did on the way into work in the morning, only 8 hours previously.
oh the shame.
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• #3893
So when I got laid out cold for 15 minutes and spent a day in hospital all because 2 Japanese women stepped out in-front of me, while both nattering away, while at a RED man I might add - they were just endangering themselves.
.Stand up in the pedals and hit them with your shoulder. Nine times out of ten you won't even go down & you can scarper sharpish. Riding in the middle of the road at the same speed as the traffic also helps avoiding pedestrians. Whistling can attract peoples attention if you think they might step out.
Incidentally peds walked out into traffic without looking long before the advent of the mobile phone & peds routinely walk out on red lights whilst looking directly at cyclists in a game of 'dare'.
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• #3894
Swedish TT helmet = excellent coffee carrier. FACT
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• #3895
Unfortunately it seems Wiggo did make his comments following the tragedy last night and it was not a rehashed quote.
It appears he made his comments during the presser he did around 10.30pm.
This is from PA this morning:In the wake of the fatal incident, Olympic gold medal-winning cyclist Bradley Wiggins was asked for his views on the safety of London's roads for cyclists.
He said: "It's dangerous and London is a busy city and a lot of traffic. I think we have to help ourselves sometimes.
"I haven't lived in London for 10 to 15 years now and it's got a lot busier since I was riding a bike as a kid round here, and I got knocked off several times.
"But I think things are improving to a degree - there are organisations out there who are attempting to make the roads safer for both parties.
"But at the end of the day we've all got to co-exist on the roads. Cyclists are not ever going to go away, as much as drivers moan, and as much as cyclists maybe moan about certain drivers they are never going to go away, so there's got to be a bit of give and take."
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• #3896
"Wiggins said he would like to see the introduction of a law making it compulsory to wear cycling helmets."
Well I wish he hadn't.
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• #3897
Interesting how they didn't quote him saying that, but just stuck it in as a "oh yeah, he said this as well".
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• #3898
Wiggins has to say that because its politically correct.
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• #3899
its stupid. what would happen to the cycle scheme?
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• #3900
Not politically correct to try and implement a law.. Saying it's a good idea to wear helmets would have been much more appropriate