• I think 404s are too deep for me, but I'm now fairly sure now I don't want carbon anyway. The Enve 3.4 Tenderloin mentioned are wheel porn, but I can't realistically afford silly high end wheels, and even if I could I'd worry about riding around on wheels worth more than a grand!

    All of the stuff on the last page was very helpful, I thought Ardennes was pâté until yesterday ;)

    The Ardennes on Chris King's are looking like a pretty tempting option at the moment, but more research is needed. I'll have a proper read up on everything that's been mentioned.

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