Surly Steamroller owners...

Hey everyone,

I'm about to start building my dreamroller. My reason for getting this frame was its massive clearances which speak directly to my fat tyre obsession. I'm concerned with my brake, tyre, rim combination which would be Shimano R451, Schwalbe Kojak 35mm and H plus Son SL42. In theory there should be no issues with the frame (I don't care about the mudguards that much) but what about the SL42s they are just 19.5mm wide. Do you think it's enough for 35mm tyres?

Many thanks

You'll probably get them to fit but it'll be a PITA and not ride great. Get wider rims.

plusses to the miro.

brake will work perfectly well, enough drop on it for the fork.

If you insist on H+Son, why not the Archetype, or the Eero? both are considerably wider than the SL42 and have a V formation (the Eero more so).

Ive run 35 tyres on 19mm rims for polo an while you CAN do it, its not ideal.

If you are going to you really need to keep the psi relatively high for them to ride properly.

Removing your Surly decals.

Removing Graphics From a Surly Frame - YouTube

Thats bollocks.
Unless 'gorilla tape' is very different to gaffer tape.

baloonman repped for 'dreamroller' :)

Kojaks run a bit small for 35s

Thanks for a quick response! I was eyeing Archetypes for some time now but I'm not sure how they would hold up to pretty frequent pothole fests of South London. From what I've seen SL42s are almost Chuck Norris amongst the road rims. Anyway I will switch to whatever is required as long as it is mirror polished.

As for Kojaks being narrower than others I don't mind that as I've been Conti fanboy for too long now.

Thanks everyone I promise to come back with more random questions as I move through the build (:

A well build wheel would be more than enough to withstand off-roading in London, in fact, the bigger tyres you've chosen will actually help reduced stress on the rims.

Even a lightweight skinny rims like the TB14 will be fine.

^ hahaha!

I just used my fingernails.

Nails worked for me too. I removed the fork decals - that felt like too much.

JonD, I just fitted guards and ordered two packs of 16mm P clips (from Ribble Cycles) - worked fine for front forks but too big for the rear stays so I had to get some 13mm instead, which are fine. They do both sizes at Ribble, but I'm sure you can get them elsewhere as well if you need.

Got mine at London Fields Cycles

^^ cheers Adam, I'd measured up and was going to order bigger ones than that, so thanks for the tip. I'll get the ones you suggest.

my 'roller threw it's chain on a roundabout last night when I did a small hop skid narrowly avoiding disaster and pretty much destroying the rear wheel so I think that means it's time for a chain tug.

anyone know which chain tug works best with the surly dropouts? am guessing the tuggnut is an obvious choice but wondering what other people are using and how well it works.

Shoot, glad it didn't throw you off at the same time HatBeard.

Very good question, by the way.

as soon as i heard it go I grabbed the front brake and pulled as close to kerb as I could before it managed to fully wrap around the hub/sprocket and jam the wheel. but then I had to balance the bike upright whilst stationary and unclip at the same time but luckily i managed it ok and hopped onto the kerb rather than fall into the road.

Very nice dismount there^ Glad you're alright!

I've just fitted a tuggnut to my Ogre as I'm running singlespeed off road & don't want to take any chances. Seems very easy to set up & adjust ( tool free ) I can't see it moving, but I'll update once I've used under some proper high torque.

I just wish the tuggnut wasn't so big and 'look at me sitting here on the dropout'

Yeah, I thought that at first. My dropouts are already a little " busy " though!

You can always take it off for photos. ;-)

I guess the On One version is another obvious choice.

Half the cost too. Looks about the right shape?

http://www.on-one.co.uk/i/q/FSOOCT/on_one_chaintug

you just reminded me I have a couple of those in my parts bin actually.

Pretty sure my Steamroller has these fitted. They certainly do the job but are not a perfect fit on the dropouts although they are at least small and tidy.

How heavy are the current Roller frames? I saw mention they were 1.9kg in a 53cm, that can't be right?!

According to the Surly catalog:

"Weight: 56cm = 2,000g (4.5 lb) Fork: uncut = 850g (1.9 lb)"