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• #63702
This is just clobbered together from bits in the shed, just so I have a working bike for the summer. Far from perfect, but it's just as fun as ever to ride!
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• #63703
come on lo pro clown ride!
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• #63704
Would they need to be disc specific?
... don't listen to Ed by the way, have you seen what he does to bikes?
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• #63705
you mean this?
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• #63706
I have an old set of MTB wheels built up with Hope Pro2s. I plan to take these apart and get the hubs built onto some 700c rims. I've got a 105 5600 triple groupset to put on it too.
Any advice on some 700c rims? Would they need to be disc specific?
I'm waiting for the new ZTR Iron Cross cyclo-cross rims from the Stans NoTubes ZTR range - http://www.notubes.com/ZTR-Iron-Cross-32-Hole-Black-P1066C127.aspx
The only difference from the ZTR Crest 29er rims is 1mm narrower and 700cc specific, not that I think it makes much or any difference, but there is a new Hutchinson Intensive Tubeless 28mm tyre coming out, which should fit those babies beautifully for a feather weight, auto sealing wheelset!
But, check this thread on the Stans forum before deciding to go with the ZTR Crest 29ers - http://messageboard.notubes.com/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3270&start=15
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• #63707
Oh, and here's the thread I started here about doing exactly that - http://www.lfgss.com/thread89090.html#post2993342
The 29er rims are gonna be stiffer and stronger by design, as they don't have to use a braking surface, so can a shorter sidewall, and stick additional material where its really needed. Stick a pair of those light weight rims on a road bike with discs = WIN!!
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• #63708
Pretty much my sentiment, I fancy going for the Crest + Hope, but my current wheel (Alex + Deores) despite being heavy is pretty bombproof.
Will probably purchase the set before I leave work.
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• #63709
In fact, I can't understand why they aren't being used by fixie skidders.
They seem like an obvious choice (once I'd stumbled across it!).
I don't know if they'd have similar problems as tubular rear wheels and tyres for the fixie skidder crew, but there shouldn't be any problems with the front at all.
In fact the advantages would seem to be huge!
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• #63710
In fact, I can't understand why they aren't being used by fixie skidders.
Yes you can.
They're not deep enough to look cool as fuck when trying to keep the bike straight on Waterloo Bridge with their puny arms.
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• #63711
Because they're luddites.
Loads of eg's, just look at how fgfs bikes look now vs a few years ago. Same with polo bikes. In both cases I remember people saying "why not use x", and people coming up with various reasons. 26" vs 700s thread is an interesting snapshot of this.
On the disc rims, it's just worth making sure they're not too wide. 'tester posted a good little update to sheldon's rim width chart the other day:
This is the modernised version of Sheldon's table:
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• #63712
Great info, thanks guys :)
The Stans might be a bit rich for my blood. I'm looking at Open Pro sort of money I think. The bike is to be used as a light tourer/gravel path/daily ride. I'm a big guy, so as usual they need to be strong and up to the task. I've had no issue with some well built open pros.
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• #63714
Yes you can.
They're not deep enough to look cool as fuck when trying to keep the bike straight on Waterloo Bridge with their puny arms.
Lol! Thats quite ironic considering what got me thinking along 29er rims was pictures of MASH Chas' bike at NACCC, which are in the thread I started! Epitome of hipster!
On the disc rims, it's just worth making sure they're not too wide. 'tester posted a good little update to sheldon's rim width chart the other day:
The ZTR Crest 29er is 21mm internal and 24mm external, and the ZTR Iron Cross is 20mm and 23mm, so think we're pretty safe with 25-37mm tyres. Thats perfect.
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• #63715
Damnit!! Now I just gotta wait for the ZTR Iron Cross rim and Hutchinson Intensive Tubeless 28mm tyre to be released!
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• #63716
29er disc rims have been used for brakeless fixed since before it was cool. I could explain but you wouldn't understand.
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• #63717
I lol'd!
Try me, you never know, I might get some of it.
I might never reach your hallowed heights Miro_o, but I can try! ;P
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• #63718
OK, at the bottom of the barrel, thoughts on Rigida Taurus rims? Also looking at Halo Aero Warriors. Not sure if I'm being too cheap.
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• #63719
For road rims Rigida are plenty better than their price sugests. They also have loads of rims in the range so one of them will be right. Parker Int and Spa Cycles both sell some of the range (but annoyingly not all). I haven't any 1st hand experience of the Taurus, but I bet it's good.
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• #63720
ended up looking like this...
oh my dear god that's beautiful.
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• #63721
+1 for Rigida - I've had good experiences with the Chrina and the DP2000
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• #63722
thats looking tidy Thrust, understated and finished well, very nice job.
where did you find the stem?
Local dude that sold it but I won it on eBay. I think Dutch Cheese and I was battling over who'd get it. I won but had to pay a pretty penny for it.
It might be a stem that originated from the USSR team during the 80's. It's a Mod 3. The drop with the pista bars is actually quite alright. I had a fear that I was going to get stretched out seeing the top tube is 59cm and the stem 130 but it's quite alright if I don't ride deep in the drops.
It will hopefully see some velodrome action in the near future.
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• #63723
After a few fixed gear and single speed builds this will be my first geared project, a Paul Donohue, reynolds 631. I intend to build it up with some spare parts first, and may consider some updates & possible repaint if it turns out nice. Being a bit of a closet weight weenie, I had to weight it - not featherlight at over 2,1kg with headset cups included, sized 57 square, but not too bad (and that down tube is quite respectable for a steel frame).
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• #63724
2.1kg is really good for a decent steel frame.
The frame look great if a little odd, look like an audax frame but I never seen modern one with the lamp holder!
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• #63725
Donohue was a good builder, a pity about their lack of organization though.
Mainly because there are some decent 29ers rims that's reasonably light, if not lighter than most, like says the NoTube Crest weighting a modest 380g, the biggest difference I find is the width, and wider is generally regard as better (better tyres shape, less pressure, etc.).
The 29ers topic on here would be a good place to start.