Which Groupset?

There is a really good point in there somewhere about winter/rain bikes. They've got be decent enough for you to be happy to ride. We live in the UK so < half the time we're on wet roads. I just use 105 chains and cassettes on my road bike so I don't regret getting it wet and shitty. I don't want any parts (wheels particularly) that I feel are a liability as I tend to worry or waste time keeping them gleaming rather then enjoying getting them used.

This also keeps my bike out of the porn thread. ;-)

yeah, was a bit muddled. Monday ramble.

Winter bikes are a funny balancing act. They have to be good enough mechanically (and fit etc) wise for you to be able to take it out without a second thought... However, you don't want it to be too nice, otherwise it becomes expensive to maintain and detracts from that "whoosh" feeling your Sunday bike should give you :)

For me it became a real pain in the arse having two bikes running different systems - means I have to have two sets of wheels for my good bike and couldn't swap stuff around in an emergency (plus the faff of having different tools etc).
Fwiw I would have been happy with Veloce for the Merckx, but ended up getting a crazy deal on a 10spd Chorus group in mint condition.