Dented to frame..safe?

Just my luck, getting ready for a rare day off ride in the peaks in glorious weather and I found a huge dent in my downtube which I imagine is form when my missus drove our car into a solidly built stone garage with the bike clamped on top- its exactly where the rack clamp goes

The frame is an old Raleigh rsp titanium and the dent is the the whole tube ( quite thick semi aero) and about 5mm deep

I wouldn't normally worry but I'm heavy, use it for sprint training so quite a bit of force, and was planning to ride some seriously steep hills

Safe or not? I'm going or a run while I decide!

Id say not but hard to tell. Photos might help but ultimately if you're questioning how safe it is then its probably not safe at all.

Yeh.. I figured that. It's a bit like when you ask 'is it ok to wear brogues and shorts'.. If youve got to ask its probably not
I'll see what the shop says later maybe..though sure they will want to shift a new frame!

I once tried to seriously mash a set of ti handlebars (rolled titanium). They were incredibly resilient. I jumped up and down on them, hit them with hammers and rocks and finally with a sledgehammer. I just about managed to split them at the join, I bent them a little and dented them. Eventually though they looked fucked, I reckon if I could have clamped them onto a stem they'd have easily lasted another 1000 miles.

Dunno if that would apply to your tube... I have heard of ti bikes cracking as well. Mebbe a different grade of ti.

Yeh i reckon it would last ok for a while, and so did the shop guys I spoke to
The only problem I have was the back end had been coked a tiny bit out of alignment and we weren't sure what damage had happened to the head tube area as this hit the stone wall first.

I'm sure it can be ridden ok but for my sanity I'm going to swap it

Anyone want a ti Raleigh frame?! One careless owner!

A friend has dented the toptube of his aluminium frame, bit bigger than thumb sized and maybe 5mm deep.

Safe or death?

Well, depents on which area on the toptube? In the head tube section, kind of dangerous, specially with that size! But in the centre, a couple inches near the head tube or seattube not really, I guess.

Take a look at the head tube, and dril the hole to the tt up, until you get the inner diameter of the toptube. And turnig yourself a short steel plug with nearly the same diameter of the tt.
Grease it with bearing grease or what ever.. and inseart it, should fall and stop until the dent starts out. And space it up with another plugs wood for example, till you see the last
one on head tube, on the vice with it, attention alloy frame!! And but a fat solid flat steel bar in it and hammer it with a buddy an the same time on the steel bar ends down. And the plug
should dent it back with the help of the grease. I would recommend to heat up the dent section so it's even easier and less stress for the material on that area. ( Not to much heat, take care about your lovely paintjob). :D :)

P.S:// The steel plug should have a medium size phase or round conical on the end!

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Well, depents on which area on the toptube? In the head tube section, kind of dangerous, specially with that size! But in the centre, a couple inches near the head tube or seattube not really, I guess.

Take a look at the head tube, and dril the hole to the tt up, until you get the inner diameter of the toptube. And turnig yourself a short steel plug with nearly the same diameter of the tt.
Grease it with bearing grease or what ever.. and inseart it, should fall and stop until the dent starts out. And space it up with another plugs wood for example, till you see the last
one on head tube, on the vice with it, attention alloy frame!! And but a fat solid flat steel bar in it and hammer it with a buddy an the same time on the steel bar ends down. And the plug
should dent it back with the help of the grease. I would recommend to heat up the dent section so it's even easier and less stress for the material on that area. ( Not to much heat, take care about your lovely paintjob). :D :)

P.S:// The steel plug should have a medium size phase or round conical on the end!

What a lot of bollocks! - Should be okay, but don't drill your frame or try to knock it out, especially with an aluminium alloy frame.