Current Projects chat and miscellany

i dont understand how this will be lighter than a carbon bike. There are no weight weenie parts so it will just be the same weight as any roadie but with a steel frame. It looks like a good bike, just not very light.

My colleague is having the same doubts, but i assure you, if the weights of the parts are anything like the claimed weights, or even above - it still weighs under 8 kilos.

Pedals are off because manufacturer stated weights are rarely including pedals, so i want to weigh it in sand-pedals once its complete.