Wanted: Tubular tyre

As for tape. I was told by a local tub fiend that the general rule is:

Italian tubs - velox tape
German tubs - tufo tape

Apparently the base tape and, adhesive, tape material combinations above work well together.

I thought it was tufo for tufo and anything else for anything else as tufo takes the basetape with it on removal..

It was done by a mechanic friend of mine- and yes it was the three on the rim and one on the tyre technique.

Having just come back from a sportive where I got two pinch flats I'm very receptive to the idea of tubs, but I have "the fear" when it comes to getting them on and off.

Unlucky. Needs to build up finger strength!

Rev - £20 posted without the glue any good to you?

Unlucky. Needs to build up finger strength!

I've got two tubs stretching right now, they are going on with Velox tape as an experiment to see what it's like.

oooops!

Rancid......if you go to £25 posted we can shake on it! (or two for £40)

I had a bad experience with Velox tape in the wet- the tub was able to roll in the rim to the point of straining the valve, I was on Manchester Velodrome at the time and the bike had been on the roof rack in the torrential rain.

Apart from that I've always cocked up a rim tape, so I stick with glue- pun not actually intended, on the road its a thin layer of glue, for the track its deeper.

I find the difficult part if you're going have one taking a tub off is getting a start - I've used flat bladed screw drivers to ease up a section between tub & rim, then lift it, and tear the rest of the tub off.

Works for me, but I've not ridden tubs on the road for some time, although if in a TT they're the preference

Carbon rim- didn't feel comfortable sticking a screwdriver in there.

I used a plastic tyre lever, fairly gingerly- once I'd got enough unstuck to be able to pull a section of the tyre over the edge of the rim it went fairly fast.

Still took ages mind, compared to a clincher.

try getting a tubeless MTB tyre off, or on- much tighter than the duck's arse.....