• james have you ever cycled in a country that has proper cycling lanes? where cyclists have some degree of priority? It's a different world. There's no guarantee that what priority we're accorded will be respected by drivers...or is the "rider down" section 100% down to cyclists not behaving themselves?

    I guess you might be making the point again for readers, but in context of what I'm saying, there's no cause to comment on the stupidity of running a red light when pedestrians are crossing. Maybe you're confused because I just said I feel that righteous anger when someone does something that could cause an accident - I didn't actually specify 'cause an accident to a cyclist' and I do consider pedestrians to be human, too. ...most of the time...

    • to use Multi's example - ok you might make it through the crossing without hitting anyone but that's not a helluva difference to when, say, another cyclist does some wankhead maneuver that could knock me off but luckily didn't - it pisses me off because it endangered my life - same deal speeding through the red light at a pedestrian crossing would make massive potential for an accident - see above for what I think about that.

    Thanks for clarification on the second example, Multi... I have been known to do that maneuver, but I slow down and make eye contact with the driver I'll be coming alongside before I join the new line of traffic. I kinda like having both legs working and a life free from brain damage, so it makes sense to know they're prepared to give way before getting near. I'd pull over and wait if it was too hectic or they weren't making eye contact and looking happy about it. (and if they're not getting pissed off about it, why should anyone else?)

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