Is it time to start calling out bad cyclists?

And long walks along the beach.

I read a post by someone who doesn't know how to spell in English this evening, am guessing they were racing to mock a certain forumenger so forgot that we say "plough" and not "plow" in the UK.

waits for nerg

Apart from their huge girth and lardge arses

A cross between 'lard' and 'large'?

Terrific word splicing SD!

Wasn't their footage of the Met cycling down some outside stairs in training? edit:

Cops learning how to ride down steps (Part 1) - YouTube

Yes the cops do some mtb technique training from ipmba and some national standard road training

Ignoring traffic rules and being at fault for an accident are two different things.

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I get really pissed off when people do stupid maneuvers that could knock me off or cause an accident. That kind of anger is righteous and if vehemently expressed might make someone realise what they've done (even that's debatable, really)

But for running a red light?

I'm sorry but any of the ripostes quoted in this thread would just make me think the commenter was a total cock. The last thing it's going to do is change my approach to traffic lights. The traffic rules we have are most emphatically NOT designed with cyclists in mind, so it doesn't make sense to follow them meticulously.

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I get really pissed off when people do stupid maneuvers that could knock me off or cause an accident. That kind of anger is righteous and if vehemently expressed might make someone realise what they've done (even that's debatable, really)

But for running a red light?

I'm sorry but any of the ripostes quoted in this thread would just make me think the commenter was a total cock. The last thing it's going to do is change my approach to traffic lights. The traffic rules we have are most emphatically NOT designed with cyclists in mind, so it doesn't make sense to follow them meticulously.

Absolutely. I am 100% certain that if I actually did follow them to the tee, I would be dead.

That's an impressive leap of logic.

That's an impressive leap of logic.

lol

Are you claiming that our system of traffic rules here in the UK is infallible?

Wow, beautiful bike!

if it hadn't been multigrooves i might have been proper pissed off about the whole thing.

[strike] :-) [/strike]

I thought all police riders got cycle training? It's their in-house version, but I thought that followed the National Standard?

NO

Every single PCSO I've seen rides in the gutter and has NO clue about general road positioning.

NO

Every single PCSO I've seen rides in the gutter and has NO clue about general road positioning.

I have made the same observation.

I always chuckle to myself when I see an officer on a bicycle. It always look so wrong. However I would imagine drivers give them much more room that the rest of us.

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I get really pissed off when people do stupid maneuvers that could knock me off or cause an accident. That kind of anger is righteous and if vehemently expressed might make someone realise what they've done (even that's debatable, really)

But for running a red light?

I'm sorry but any of the ripostes quoted in this thread would just make me think the commenter was a total cock. The last thing it's going to do is change my approach to traffic lights. The traffic rules we have are most emphatically NOT designed with cyclists in mind, so it doesn't make sense to follow them meticulously.

Please tell how it's correct to swan through a red with peds crossing please. Also why it's fair for drivers to have to adjust for someone swaning through a red when they waited for their green.

The traffic rules we have are most emphatically NOT designed with cyclists in mind, so it doesn't make sense to follow them meticulously.

That's *exactly *the kind of attitude a lot of drivers have too. The Highway Code's pretty good. It's road users of any kind deciding to play by their own rules that fucks it up for the rest.

Road infrastructure is a bit shit in places, but that's a whole different story.

Please tell how it's correct to swan through a red with peds crossing please. Also why it's fair for drivers to have to adjust for someone swaning through a red when they waited for their green.

Bit of a straw man argument.

Correct me if i'm wrong but nowhere did he say it's "correct to swan through a red with peds crossing" or "it's fair for drivers to have to adjust for someone swaning through a red"

You CAN jump reds and not affect other road users in anyway - a bit like crossing a busy road on foot.

^That's a bit of a "if a tree falls" argument though, innit?

How are you judging whether you've affected other road users?

I take the comments on the Mail-on-line as my guide to how cyclists affect car drivers. I find it reliable and informative.

^That's a bit of a "if a tree falls" argument though, innit?

How are you judging whether you've affected other road users?

When you stop a few meters past the stop line. When you go through a red on a deserted road. I could go on.

You could go on not answering the question?

I could go on if I cared…

I have made the same observation.

I always chuckle to myself when I see an officer on a bicycle. It always look so wrong. However I would imagine drivers give them much more room that the rest of us.

Same PCSO said it was funny how people gave him loads of room when all pigged up and non at all when he rode home lacking his fake uniform.

You CANNOT jump reds and not affect other road users in anyway.

Fixed.

To the other road user, you look like a douchebag for doing so.

Absolutely. I am 100% certain that if I actually did follow them to the tee, I would be dead.

Then you're not doing it right.
Maybe you should try some cycle training?
Do a skid.

Sorry bit to much on the forum catchphrases.

Basically this is bullshit, it's bullshit I've said myself, but it's still bullshit.

All the same let's not turn this into the RLJ thread.

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The traffic rules we have are most emphatically NOT designed with cyclists in mind, so it doesn't make sense to follow them meticulously.

The point of traffic rules is to put everyone on equal terms. If everyone took the same view then there would be chaos on the road.

If you don't want to follow the rules, then why should I? Or the next man, or the next man?