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@Rik_Van_Looy
I've recently acquired an italianate whip on the ebay for £11.50 (frame only, no forks) - wondered if the combined knowledge could be brought to bear.....
Here she is dressed for rat duties (it's the only 1" fork I own!)
For a brief moment I thought I had a cinelli on my hands... alas not - it's not a windsor either or any other cinelli-clone....
The frame number (107.) is stamped on the rear dropouts - which are campag 1010 or whatever you call them.
(Classy paintjob - they didn't even remove the adjuster screws!!)
There are Cinelli style lugs at the headtube - but they're 2-hole & 1-hole piercings rather than the Cinelli standard 3-hole & 2-hole...
The seat lug is totally different to Cinelli or any of the knock-offs
Thats a massively oxidised campag record drillium post with an Arius Gran Carrera Saddle - which gives some idea of the period - my guess is early 70's. There's a little ridge to locate the band on D/T shifters, and the rear mech cable routing is a stop on the d/t around the radius of the chainring, then you run a cable outer up to another stop behind the bb. there's a band-on front mech (also early 70's campag) - but I've no idea how the cable would have been routed to that...
There's nothin to route cables under the bb as this has been drilium'd to within an inch of it's life!!!!
Headtube lugs are quite nice - no sign of any rivet holes
Any ideas????
Could be italian - I wondered about Atala and Masi. but it could just as easily be a british framebuilder making something a bit special for a "continentally minded" customer ..........