RLJ (Red Light Jumping). (The definitive bikeradar thread)

I wrote:

However cycling and driving a car are fundamentally different acts with regards to dangers to society and as such breaches of the law by the two parties can be treated differently without condoning either.

To emphasise: "without condoning either", I have not sought to excuse cyclists by comparing their actions with drivers, you have sought to condemn apologists by comparing them to driver apologists. This is still your argument not mine.