Wet track thread, for all your wet/damp/not quite dry discussions

I expected a more thorough set of criteria from you. Disappointing. I'll do a spreadsheet for you.

Don't judge me with your establishment rules.

Please see my comments regarding assessment of conditions with a bearing on rider ability. A blanket 'official' policy isn't worth jack shit tbh as your anecdotal evidence (as an experienced) rider will not be of relevance when coaching a group of 1st timers. At the other end of the scale, sprinters doing standing starts isn't going to work on a wet surface either.

Cooky's opinions do not reflect the views of HH management as a whole.

It will be guidance as to what riders can expect the decisions to be for various sessions (rider ability assosciated with particular sessions)- not my idea, but seems like a good idea to me.

The main reason that i posted anything at all is because someone could easily read what you had written - assumed that as you do a lot at the track that was the official line - then decide not to turn up, even though the session still runs as the coach for that session deems it safe.

Final decisions will obviously lie with the coach for that session - but some guidance for riders on what to expect would probably be quite useful.

Actually mate it's not. It's up to those responsible for the rider's welfare during the session/race meet. Up to riders only after that decision has been taken.

Whether riders want to ride in the wet or not is nothing to do with the coach/commisaire - whether they are allowed/advised to is. You've misunderstood the point I was making.

The main reason that i posted anything at all is because someone could easily read what you had written - assumed that as you do a lot at the track that was the official line - then decide not to turn up, even though the session still runs as the coach for that session deems it safe.

In as much as they could also read someone else's breezy affirmations, assume they can ride in any weather and turn up only to be disappointed.

Whether riders want to ride in the wet or not is nothing to do with the coach/commisaire - whether they are allowed/advised to is. You've misunderstood the point I was making.

Sure, I see what you're saying.

Regarding any 'official' line, I think it's difficult to impose that on something which is so changeable over such a short time as to be of any benefit.
Once the warmer weather starts it'll be largely irrelevant anyway. There are many other things far more deserving of thought and discussion in any case.

So will the track be wet tomorrow? I might dust off the track bike thats been in its bike bag since the world masters last year.

That should cause it to rain...

:-)

...A blanket 'official' policy isn't worth jack shit tbh...

I think we should establish if a policy isn't worth jack shit or it is worth jack shit...

Agreed!

Actually folks, a very clever policy has been formulated which isn't 'blanket'. So watch out for the new HHV website coming soon.

At least a big blanket would keep the track dry.

Agreed!

Actually folks, a very clever policy has been formulated which isn't 'blanket'. So watch out for the new HHV website coming soon.

You bet. Very clever is the way forward.
Have they got a webcam on the track- always feel that would be useful addition, like a roof might be.

The webcam will be reinstated very soon. The main reason it was taken down was that Tarmac's contractors didn't like being filmed while they were resurfacing. Not sure what they didn't want to be seen doing.

Anyway, a webcam wont really help with weather conditions. Tarmac looks darker when its damp, but its still ridable until its soaked. You can't really tell that without being there.

The track was pretty wet for the start of the Rolla open meet today, and it was fine!
Hopefully my hubs & BB wont have desintergrated into thin air by monday night training though....

all weather surface track innit

There was a group of ducks hanging out in track centre tonight....
This weather is getting out of hand.

The ducks arrived on Sunday for the sprint session. They had thier own deckchairs but couldn't find anywhere dry to pitch them

I feel their pain.

If they're there this Sunday they are going to be served with noodles for lunch.

I'll bring my carbon sprinters chopsticks specially.

Do they do keirins or are they all the same colour?

http://www.carbonfibergear.com/solid-carbon-fiber-chopsticks/

You rang ?

Go perfect with my Campag corkscrew

As promised: http://www.hernehillvelodrome.com/sessions_and_training/wet_weather_policy/

Ta for that.

Though you will want to do your own risk assessment to come up with something for BCC as its a very different track and will be more susceptible to slipping due to the steeper banking and tighter turns.

indeed,
the evidence so far from where Im standing is that a fifteen stone man can ride safely on our damp track, between lines.
Think that the definitions on the HH one are good, but as you say may not apply completely