European Qualifier Discussion - 2013 and onwards

So you are saying if we have teams A, B, C, and they are ordered by ability, and B would generally beat C, but lose to A. But if C don't have the fear against A, and in a one-off game scrape an unexpected victory they deserve to go more than B?

It's an interesting way of looking at it, and goes against the principle of RR being the most accurate way of seeding, but I do see your point, judging teams by their ability to beat the best (cup teams), rather than their peers (league teams).

No, I don't think that Degen was a C team that got lucky, we were a solid B, which we proved by beating two of the best teams in Europe. If we were capable of nearly always beating the C teams, and winning more than we lost or drew against B teams, we would have been an A team, but, as we showed in the Euros, we weren't able to do that at tournaments.