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@CasaSteve
I use a B17N. I find it OK, but any distance I do on it I use padded shorts generally. It's slowly relinquishing and changing shape though.
I have to admit, riding my Pompino with the B17N after I've been riding my Mottram with a Supercorsa feels like I'm riding on a large sofa. The Supercorsa is comfy, but the two are totally different.