Locks that work

Just received the Fag from Parker International which is listed as the place to buy it at the start of this thread. However, there was no key replacement, no light key instructions and no insurance paperwork inside. There's also no code printed on the large key. Both my other Kryptonite locks have a number printed on the large key and are also a different shape. Is this legit? Is this what the keys are like for this lock? I don't think the key replacement programme is used in the UK so that doesn't matter. I also won't be using the insurance as I'm not too worried about this thing being broken into. But I just want to know that the lock is the real thing and won't fail on me. It seems to lock exactly the same.

Here's the keys:

The keys look legit, but as you say, mine came with some paperwork, box and the key ring had an extra tag on it with the number stamped on that, key replacement is available in the Europe, via Germany. It looks like Parker have screwed up somehow, or you bought an OEM lock, lol.

Simply phone ParkerInternational and get them to sort it out? If not, then contact Kryptonite directly.

Just received the Fag from Parker International which is listed as the place to buy it at the start of this thread. However, there was no key replacement, no light key instructions and no insurance paperwork inside. There's also no code printed on the large key. Both my other Kryptonite locks have a number printed on the large key and are also a different shape. Is this legit? Is this what the keys are like for this lock? I don't think the key replacement programme is used in the UK so that doesn't matter. I also won't be using the insurance as I'm not too worried about this thing being broken into. But I just want to know that the lock is the real thing and won't fail on me. It seems to lock exactly the same.

Here's the keys:

Joseph,
This is a New York Fahgettaboudit Mini, so no issue there. Strange that the lock would have come to you in that way missing the support docs. If I look at the photos, I see that there is a small metal tag that will have the key-code stamped into it. New York Series D-Lock's have the code stample on a metal tag, instead of the keys.
Register your key code on-line @ https://www.kryptonitelock.com/Pages/KeyRegistration.aspx
Replacement is legit, we support all key replacement from the US, so if you loose a key or two, for $12 USD you can get (2) new cut keys to your code you registered. This can also be done on-line with a CC.
I will try to email you the lighted key insert and the main insert that would have come with the New York Fahgettaboudit Mini, so you can have the details and decide if the 1 year Free ATPO works for you.
If any ? come up contact our CS team @ kryptonite@irco.com
Don

Thanks Don. Very helpful as usual.

Sadly, there is some not very positive news to report. I shall be reviewing Pitlocks as a locking tool [someone else is doing the tests], as (private) forumenger tests have proved that the system is not nearly as good as thought. I'm not saying NOT to buy it, as its worked well for many, for a long time. But at the moment it appears that it can be compromised, so the Atomic 22 gets the nod.

My recommendation is to look carefully at how any of the skewer/locking bolts may be compromised, and choose the best option.

Here's how I lock using a single Abus Granit-X 54

I can't really recommend sticking your helmet in a lock like this - all it takes is for someone to knock your bike and your helmet's in pieces.

In other news, I have a new shiny red helmet.

thanks don. Very helpful as usual.

n.p !

Out of interest, how many people here know of anyone/have had a bike nicked which has been locked up with a fahgettaboudit? Are they as good as £100 makes them out to be

They are very good but you can find them cheaper with a bit of searching.

^^ do you mean fahgettaboudit d lock or chain?

Out of interest, how many people here know of anyone/have had a bike nicked which has been locked up with a fahgettaboudit? Are they as good as £100 makes them out to be

http://www.fatbirds.co.uk/1441/products/kyryptonite-new-york-fahgettaboudit-mini-lock.aspx

£59

it's easily my favourite lock. and so far nothings been stolen

Has anyone ever had a bike nicked (or know someone who has) while locked up with a Granit X-Plus 54?

^ I have only ever heard great things about the X-Plus 54… http://www.lfgss.com/post1672985-792.html for example

http://www.fatbirds.co.uk/1441/products/kyryptonite-new-york-fahgettaboudit-mini-lock.aspx

£59

it's easily my favourite lock. and so far nothings been stolen

Well, there was Ed's CrossCheck, but instead of trying to crack the lock, they just took the Sheffield stand.

The D Lock is what i was looking at, I know about ed's, bummer, but proves the lock is tough, amazon do a good price mind you

I can't really recommend sticking your helmet in a lock like this - all it takes is for someone to knock your bike and your helmet's in pieces.

In other news, I have a new shiny red helmet.

I can see that the helmet is covered in dents and dimples. You realise that foam bike helmets are very fragile things? Even if it is in one piece, each time the lock gave it a little squeeze or whack the helmets structure/protective capacity was changing.

Most helmets are designed for a single impact.

Skateboard helmets or nothing in my opinion (for commuters who keep their helmets for a long time and only make shortish journeys).

Soft shell helmets for racers & long distance riders where the weight matters more than durability.

In a traffic crash, if you manage to avoid getting squashed it is highly likely there will be sharp/pointy debris trying to stab your skull. Good quality hard shell helmets can offer a lot of defense from this. Brands like Pro-tec also have multi impact technology.

You can get multi impact roadie helmets, but they are £100+ and still have the vulnerable soft shell.

Hello. I just got an Onguard Brute 5001 U-lock. Anyone with experience with Onguard can you tell me if the crossbar and shackle are meant to rattle when locked together? Like I can twist the crossbar a few millimeters. Is that normal? Thanks

Skateboard helmets or nothing in my opinion (for commuters who keep their helmets for a long time and only make shortish journeys).

Soft shell helmets for racers & long distance riders where the weight matters more than durability.

In a traffic crash, if you manage to avoid getting squashed it is highly likely there will be sharp/pointy debris trying to stab your skull. Good quality hard shell helmets can offer a lot of defense from this. Brands like Pro-tec also have multi impact technology.

You can get multi impact roadie helmets, but they are £100+ and still have the vulnerable soft shell.

^ this.

If you really want to protect your noggin', do it properly.

There are very good (and admittedly expensive) helmets that doesn't get hot in the summer like those two;

Make you look like a feckin' mushroom head though.

ahh but Toad is the fastest character in mario kart though.

#prosandcons

I live in The Netherlands and would like to add my experiences. First let me emphasize that I think the environment here (at least in Amsterdam) is a little bit different. People here generally don't use very expensive bikes in the city, but have old ones that look like a wreck for this purpose. I think professional bike thieves (that use serious tools like bolt cutters) are relatively scarce for this reason. Of course they exist, but this is not the main problem here.

Tradionally here it's about homeless drug addicts trying to score an easy bike and then sell it in some alley for 10 euro's. The amount of homeless heroine addicts has drastically been reduced in the last 10-15 years however, so this probably has made the problem less severe. Some of the most popular locks here are the relatively simple Abus Steel O Chain 810 (now succeeded by the Iven 8210, with a thougher sleeve) and Viro Supermorso, which seem sufficient in most cases. Somewhat more serious is the Axa Procarat 105 or 130. The most popular more heavy duty lock here that is being used on bikes probably is the Viro Super Blocca Catena with a 10mm chain. This last one is really a pretty serious chain/lock combo.

Example of an effective combination of shitty looking bike and heavier Viro chain (clickable):

Also quite effective as an extra security measure is a frame lock, like the Axa Defender or the Abus Amparo 4850. Since a frame lock is fixed and the key is always in it when open, it's very convenient to use. Also, although of course far from unbreakable, it probably still takes an uncomfortable amount of time to unlock it without the key, which leaves a thieve with a bike which might be 'mobile', but still is not driveable (of course it looks very suspicious to walk with a bike while lifting the rear wheel).

So, although I realize it's a different market out here maybe it's still usefull to see how people lock their bike in this place.

Just recieved a new Forgetaboutut "mini"... the thing weighs a tonn and not "Mini" at all!

Also you Dutchies, have those fantastic, handcuff type rear locks. Mostly look like they are attached /part of the rear brake bolt.

My ex, had her house keys etc. on the same ring, so when she was not on the bike, the rear was always locked to the bike.

Great invention for small short trips- quick nip to the shops etc.

I have wondered why a small version has not caught on here.