Gazelle? Does anyone know anything about them?

I have been eyeballing champion mondial frames (and monitoring this tread) for a while, and recently found an abandoned (wrecked rear wheel) A-frame. Knew about the better tubing compared to my own bikes, grabbed a functional rear wheel to collect it and rode it home.

I have two bikes at the moment, one ss with fenders and laidback setup, as a bad weather/groceries bike, and one fg with a more agressive setup, as main ride. Both are the same brand, and as i'm a brand-nazi, I'd like to end up with 2 champion mondials, one fendered and one which feels alot faster/twitchier.
So when i was riding my newfound A-frame home, i noticed that the geo was really very laidback, might be due to a too low seat/too high bars. As i heard that the geometry (except wheelbase) doesn't change all that from the more touring-oriented A-frame to the tightest of super-AA's, i was wondering, is it even possible to get a fast-feeling, kind-of twitchy setup on any sort of champion mondial?
Thanks

chuck on a 50mm stem and some straight bars / risers
that will give you a nice fast feeling ( i hesitate to say twitchty cause gazelles don't seem to do twitchy ) steering

Repainted Champion Mondial Track in full Dura Ace

Lovely, was original paint bad?

Lovely, was original paint bad?

Decals were half gone and I'm not a fan of red. It'll come through when the grey chips off though.

whats this ? odd looking tvm machine ?
http://fietsen-brommers.marktplaats.nl/fietsen-racefietsen/542721875-team-tvm-gazelle-racefiets.html?return=eJwtykEKgzAQheG7CLo0puomIZT0JkEthiRmcCZtaendO1I3w8c%2FzympPl51GpUce1Xh4vZp1SsRKCFChmVrk9sDQXSOsN2i%2BE9aWOH6ikY2MxrKdW9l3d8iHzsM40Fivj0w8T7jOYCjdozED7uVtOx%2BOno5e3gy6JGYGT370gAU01X6%2BwOBCzUc&df=1&fta=eNotzktuwyAQgOG7sMiapwmDfIVeweLl1CpOUMCO1Sh372B19zGI4Xeg4V3hCmR75ml3uRJbQQsgRx7ZJdaxPYDZzEBKZXOD36XYOseKw9KA2rXAfVvTcwm2bHj%2BeUHbV%2FuoC%2FBLKdtI%2B0IJpLhbInbBdxVw%2FRLPnxhXQDgd2KCYPjhVRmolOgYl%2FDkZGHWuQyTt%2BImYmERIE%2Fg1IsSctPcI3GR0B6Pe%2BwFBgw6BH2yW0ghuDpZCoFzOCB%2FTrPVZgUHtUVysU073W%2FvuoRQvDJDVHVNvx9x4xnMg7kXs1z93Yh1QeH8%2Bf65lYpk%3D&fta_ind=2&fs=1

taking the double triangle to a whole new level !

That's a low level road racer with probably an Astro frame from the far east, painted in the TVM pro team colours of the late 1990s.
Comparable with the "Vuelta" model with heavy "aero" steel tubing in black/red/yellow/blue some years before.

Frame design based on funny MTB frames already outdated when these roadbikes were produced.

Hi guys,

I remember reading somewhere how long were the champion mondial top tubes for every frame size. Like a 54 to 56 frame would have a 54cm TT. I've used the search feature but I can't seem to find it. Could someone point in the right direction please?

Thanks in advance.

You can find it here (scroll down): http://jvs.webklik.nl/page/maat

http://www.lfgss.com/post2588631-7.html

(it weas in an ad of mine DC explained this, that's why I remember)

Thanks Peter.

I have two 54 and one 56 frame. All three have a 54 TT lenght. I was wondering about the smaller frame sizes from 53 down to 49 (I think that was the smallest) what the TT would be.

49 unique
50 unique
51 / 52
53 / 56
57 / 59
60 / 62
63 / 66
70

OK. Thank you!

WWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW this 753, dream bike

http://link.marktplaats.nl/544122167

WWWWWWWOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW this 753, dream bike
http://link.marktplaats.nl/544122167

Yes, many people agree.
I was the 1st one to place a bid. Also sent a PM and asked what frame size. Seller seems to be too stupid for that kind of questions.
I'm out, considering the price traders already offered.

too bad DC, getting that one as a bargain would have me jumping through the ceiling. looks like a 57? I think it's getting toward the price it is worth, even if the seller's a nitwit

found a Ti Gazelle too, can be nice with some trimming work:

http://link.marktplaats.nl/542732605

Still very áppy of acquiring this in October (?) last year.. 753, original 70's livery.. Sold off some stuff, now have most of the NR/SR complete.. Only things to acquire are affordable gum hoods and OG jockey wheels, since it now has '80s Shimano ones on.. Been thinking white hoods and brown cotton tape seeing the lettering, but still not convinced..

Shame I couldn't attend Stalen Ros, last minute deadline for uni.. Hoped to have acquired some stuff there.. Should've asked you to keep an eye out for me Peter.. :(

gum hoods with brown tape me thinks....

http://fietsen-brommers.marktplaats.nl/fietsen-racefietsen/546562118-gazelle-champion-mondial-531-speed-stream-58cm-frame.html?return=eJwtissOgjAQRf%2FFBJbQluiihBj8kwlU2zBtJ0yJBuO%2FOz5259x7wGr7DFb1bPXJ2AM7WCff%2B1LItu2SyaUmwroUQoDCTcL2lzTk6fzAQdczDyVX3air7oJFYA8kyNeZ%2Fyt9ViUQ5RjTFt0aJtHlLnqD3SG6yhyNmjxECjl9JeY0B0DpMgcJTU20DerQv970LToD&df=1&fta=eNotkFuOwyAMRfeCNPPNKzyMuoXZQkUCtNGQBJW0jVp174OT%2BTv2ta%2Bt60HDu4IBcr%2Fl88PnSlwrFZAtn9h3qKd1AebyCq%2BxuJpCbVVZgbqpwHyf4m0c3O8TLv4Vc45fnA5XP5VxmRtOyxxGn91SR%2BDfpdxPFN0lkOIvkbixeVUQQMawn%2BXKAuHUSpuk2BB4MApBRCoPMJ3aJW4YpQg0MnGATUnuIKSPxzDlh0R9xxuY0FuLkhlkVDhsvOy8R7DDIPtdEsGwBsoqSgfsGM48%2BhgVEzUIQnK9Dwuhj3UhVLAI7WuKH%2BrUdx1u6dD3IaGhYjYE7AzWWLOxxKPuetzSthcMfbSUXcATmmseJKbCWkDrUnyo5xzny3rF4GgTWliT386YZYsvAMcIgfgncT%2F%2F%2BCDOA4X35%2FMHxUmM6Q%3D%3D&fta_ind=3&fs=1

quite a nice looking frame
ovalised seat tube ? or just a dodgy photo
semi horizontal dropouts 531 Speed Stream.

Sorry for the spam but I thought it might reach the right audience here. My GCM is up for sale:

http://www.lfgss.com/thread83318.html

Yes I've seen that one and I'm tempted. Are you sure the top tube is 53cm and not 54cm?

I happen to be passing the lock-up so I'll measure it in an hour.

You're right, it's a 54cm (ctc) top tube - I'll update the ad.

lovely small sized gazelle track on ebay at the minute
i think that frame / bike is my fave bike of all time


That is absolutely stunning.