• My theory is that it's non-drivers who don't have the skills to ride safely. Not enough experience with realtime spatial problem solving and prediction. No awareness of the risks. How else do you explain nodders going up the inside of turning lorries & busses every day?

    I have to agree - a lot of folks I see on the road so obviously haven't driven round London in a car, lorry or motorbike (or have passed a driving test). If they had they wouldn't do half the dumb-ass shit I see on the roads everyday!

    I'm not disagreeing with you both but to a degree being able to drive has nothing/little to do with it. I think having driven (anywhere and not just in London) does help but you can easily learn how to read the road and be aware of the potential hazards without ever having driven.

    I think my cycling before I began driving helped me with my driving and vice versa. I just think, as others have said, some of them are total twats and will never learn and others could benefit from a fair bit of cycle training.

    That or shooting.

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