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@TheCrane
bb and cranks with 2 rings and ziptied baggie of pedal spacers come up to 690g according to park tools ds-2 digi scales (stated 680g which i assume is for 170 or 172.5 arms not 175)
I have been looking at xtr on crc which is a marginal price further up, but no bb included and its weight is stated at "sub 700" without bb so i think i shall stick with these.