Weight / Fat loss

^^^ With those figures, wouldn't you be much better off forgetting all about the gym and stuff and just getting out, riding more and harder? I thought you had to be way up there in ability before any off bike training benefited someone into road riding.

Yep I'd be interested to know whether this is true or not too. How fit do you have to be on the bike when lifting weights off the bike and other exercise actually makes a difference?

For most people isn't it just a fact of get out and ride more?