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531 is 'better' than 501 - the Holdsworth 531 will be Reynolds 531 tubing

and all those, you picked, look like birds bikes :)

For £250 you're not going to get the "lightest bike evar" even if you sacrifice in component choice. But compared to a mountain bike or gas pipe steel frame it will feel well faster.

Langster is a bang on choice for first fixed/single speed.

buy the langster, great deal

So, why is there so much hype about even cheap old frames, out of interest?

Its a case of 'I saw you coming' trying to catch out hipsters.

Conversions can >>>>>>>>>>>>

I dunno, the Bianchi looks ok for the moolah really

it looks better than half the powdercoated gaspipe 'bespoke track fixie bike only 400 dollar lol' you inexplicably still see on ebay, can get better bike for £280 though

Personally I'd rather walk than ride a langster. But then both the OP's posted bikes are a bit naff. Hmm. There must be another option. £250 isn't a lot but it's sensible money for a secondhand, basic fixed wheel.

Also steel feels different to aluminium to ride, better in my opinion, especially on shitty roads.

Build your own bike man or get someone to help you you'll get to pick out parts you like and you'll be proud of your final product

Build your own bike man or get someone to help you you'll get to pick out parts you like and you'll be proud of your final product

I'm totally up for that, and am capable of building one myself, despite the lack of space (make it more time consuming though) but i'm dying to get riding, before I leave Oxfordshire in about 8 weeks for a few months over the summer holiday. I see no reason in buying a shitter for £50, which I probably would hate riding, and not ride. I'm not buying for transport, at all, just to explore the city a bit more, and ride for fun. I wouldn't ride a £50 gumtree special for fun... just to get about, which isn't really why i'm buying a bike for the city.

I think I'll spend some money now, and get riding a FG ASAP, then sell it up for probably a small loss (?) and buy the bits to build my own/rebuild it with some nicer parts over the summer if I become attached to the frame. Am I going about this the wrong way though... should I wait and build my ideal bike at home over the summer, or start budget with something I will enjoy riding (eg. components and build over beauty)...

I'm not so worried about theft as I was when I was given some advice in another thread... I've made space in my shoebox room, and will sleep practically with my bike, and won't use it to commute.

PS. Please continue the new vs. old argument... I'm interested! Also, i've enquired about the Langster, but still open to opinions, as always.

Thanks,

Matt.

Out of interest, have you also asked around in the Oxford forum? Someone local might have something you can try out, know someone who's selling something etc, and save you a wild goose chase down here.

buy langster, put brake(s) on (2 if singlespeed) and ride. Sell in the summer for the same as you bought it for (bike may or may not have devalued, depending on how you ride it / look after it, market will have picked up due to people wanting summer bikes).

Spend the time learning what is worth spending £ on / how to build / what to build. Buy new bike in september when you come back to oxford...

(i skim read your posts, apologies if I misread something, don't think i did though)

Well, if your in oxford, get yoself to the OCW and build a bike. then go to the quietest subforum on teh internetz.

OCW being Oxford Cycle Workshop? I don't believe it's open for business anymore?

Do you happen to know more than I do?

(Just posted over there, I hadn't thought to really, since yes, the quietest sub-forum on the internet!)

Thanks :)

The guy with the orange Bianchi just texted me and said I can have it for £250 tomorrow... still not worth it? So torn between the Langster, which is nearer to me, and the Bianchi... :(

Still leaning towards the Langster, but I really don't know... The same old frame vs. new frame thing again! Wish I could combine the two...

Thinking paint the langster frame and front wheel (to match the rear) and be contented!

Its a case of 'I saw you coming' trying to catch out hipsters.

A bit like like track ends then.

:)

Why do people fit trackends to old frames? Because they are heavier duty and more horizontal?

I'm set on the Langster chaps... Thanks for the help. Hoping the seller and I will be able to work something out to meet up. I did some more research, and apparently the frame is just 3.5lb! The Langster is heavy because of the wheels I read, and these have been changed for Charge Plug wheels... I don't know if they are any lighter, can't find much info, but still it seems a good frame, with some nice components. Hoping it'll be really light and nippy, and the tyres aren't too wide. Thinking a more conventional stem, with possibly some flatter bars, and some grips, a front brake, and a different saddle maybe.

The seller gave me some more information via PM, and I replied earlier saying I want it, so fingers crossed - waiting for a reply in the morning :D

Thanks for the help. I'll be sure to keep you updated.

Why do people fit trackends to old frames? Because they are heavier duty and more horizontal?...

Because their frames have vertical dropouts.

Oh, of course... duh. I hadn't really thought about that. I researched what a track end was, and found this... didn't help he was fitting them onto a bike that already had horizontal drop outs.

I am building up a bike for my sister out of mostly new or nos parts. It will be a 650c build which is important to note (as they are hard to come buy in good quality).

Can anyone give me an estimate of what they think I could resell for if it doesnt work out?

Columbus Neuron frame (threaded fork, excellent condition 90's frame)
NEW miche young 650c wheelset
stelvio folding tyres
mid range square taper chainset (like 105)+double rings
sealed shimano BB (new)
new compact shallow drop road bars
itm quill stem
retro brake levers
8 speed bar end shifters (shimano 600 or similar)
deore LX rear mech+wide range cassette
shimano 600 or similar front mech
Miche dual pivot brakes (new)
Saddle, pedals & seatpost (nothing exciting)
105 threaded headset

all new colour matched cables, new chain, bar tape etc..

Gents

im looking for a little advice
a work someone has a bianchi GOLD 300 (poss around 2001 ish)
it certainly looks ok, it just hasnt been riden that much so just needs a service really
any ideas what this should be fetching? the seller wants £230

Ta muchly

A friend of mine is considering selling me his old Saracen Tourmalet. He is not sure of the year believes it to be an 04 model. He put it through a bit of wear and tear changed the back derailer to something (cheapish)
Unsure of what else he has changed, should be going around at some point to have a look at it.
What parts should I be looking at? and what should I be looking for to verily they are good/original.
Also not really test driven a bike before so what should I look for when I ride it? As this is LFGSS let the flame begin :)

Hi, I want to sell the following, grateful for any ideas on proximate value.

Halo Aerorage rear wheel, fixed / free, 23 x 700, black, good condition.

Specialized langster 2008 frame and fork, some dents and scratches, green with white boxed logo, no headset.

Been wanting one of these for years but they never come up... seems a little overpriced to me though? I'd put a couple of hundred on it but not much more or am I being stupid?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cervelo-Soloist-56cms-2005-Limited-Edition-/280843362642?pt=UK_Bikes_GL&hash=item416391a152#ht_500wt_1204

^ any thoughts on how much it's worth??