• The truth of the matter is that cheap 4130 Cr Mo is plenty strong enough for a track frame, and making it in ⅛" over the old 1930s standard tube diameters will make it stiff enough for anybody who can't put out over 2kW in a sprint. The thing that nobody has ever got close to with steel is combining stiffness and aerodynamics to the degree that carbon fibre frame makers can, which is why all elite track riders use carbon fibre frames.

    If you actually think those 'teardrop' 853 tubes represent any kind of aerodynamic benefit over round tubes, you need to go back to aerodynamics school too. For all your bluster about 20 years of genuine technological advances being all marketing, the actual facts point to so-called 'aero' steel tubing being the thing which has the greatest excess of hype over substance.

    Tell it to the world please. I know all this.
    I'd still prefer a Steel Aero frame over an Aluminum one. Carbon is out of my price range.

    Again, you think I went to Aero dynamics school?!

    None of these factors you have detailed above have any relevance on the average rider of a fixed gear bike on the street. Which is who this bike is aimed at. People like me.

    You should go back to the school of chill out.

    Your knowledge of the technicalities concerning bicycles is unquestionable on this forum. You don't need to prove your point on every damn thing that comes up...

    Your knowledge of style has yet to be proven though...

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