• regarding the 14R my question is why? technology moved on for a reason no? Is it just an exercise to show "look what we can do with steel"? I don't get it. I think the design could've done more to distance itself from the run of the mill visps, fujis and leaders as well, for a custom built 853 frame.

    Technology has not moved on... This is the Fixed Gear Single Speed Forum right?!
    I suppose that riding a single speed bike is at the height of technology...

    You are missing the point by a lot.

    "Technology" as you say, moved on because the cycling industry wanted to keep the customers interested in buying new products. Gears were introduced into the tour de france to make the race more exciting, not because the riders wanted them.

    Steel is recyclable. Carbon and Aluminum is not so. Or have they invented a way to do that with carbon yet?! Who knows.

    Steel will last you a lifetime (Unless you are one of those people who like to buy new things for the sake of it, which I am beginning to think you and most of the world are)
    853 is as stiff as you need it to be and Aero 853 is stiffer than that.

    Lets see your distanced design please!

    I designed this frame in early 2009, I'm still riding it daily now. A friend of mine had a Roberts steel Aero frame from the 90's and it was awesome, I wish I could have owned that bike... but guess what! They don't make em like that any more and also Reynolds has the only machine that can still draw Aero 853. All the other tubing companies threw there machines away. We would have such a lot more beautiful steel frames around if only they were not as hasty to follow the cycling industry's fashionable trends.

    Sorry for the rant. But it's true.

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