Freewheel Tool advice

Loic,

Met you at West drinks, so presume you're a westie?

Dunno if you can get to us (bike whisperer. ealing) but we have most tool for ancient freewheels, we see a lot of freewheels still, some on classics, lots on station junkers- I have a few custom pre-filed tools as well. Our rates are reasonable, and the soft hearted mechanic does some jobs for free, or sexual favours....
S.

Use a hammer?

Tried already, have you seen the result on my Holdsworth?? Hehe!

Loic

I am actually south east... But love you guys at west, so I come sometines... especially now because of that lovely goulach!!

Thanks for you proposal!

I will try filling down that bloody FR-2 anyway, and hope it will work... I just hate the idea of needing to go to a bike shop for such a simple task as replacing 3 spokes! They always break first on the drive side these b**tards!!

Szia

Loic

Loic,
Met you at West drinks, so presume you're a westie?
Dunno if you can get to us (bike whisperer. ealing) but we have most tool for ancient freewheels, we see a lot of freewheels still, some on classics, lots on station junkers- I have a few custom pre-filed tools as well. Our rates are reasonable, and the soft hearted mechanic does some jobs for free, or sexual favours....
S.

Scherrit's toolbox examined..

Hi everybody,

I need to replace some spokes on an old wheel, but need to remove the freewheel first...

Looks like that:

It looks, if I refer to the parktool link posted above, that I should use this:

http://www.parktool.com/products/detail.asp?cat=4&item=FR-2

Does anyone has this and would kindly let me borrow it?

In Mildy, we never had the right tools for this kind of job so used pin pliers.. last resort..

Loic, I had exactly this issue with an old freewheel and that tool. I used an old coarse sharpening stone to grind the teeth down. I would lend you the tool but I destroyed it, and the freewheel, as it turned out to be seized on too tightly. Use penetrant spray. Secure the tool before you turn it, and be careful as you start to untighten because the diameter of the tool is slightly smaller (or larger, I forget) than the freewheel it engages and is liable to slipping.

Loic, I had exactly this issue with an old freewheel and that tool. I used an old coarse sharpening stone to grind the teeth down. I would lend you the tool but I destroyed it, and the freewheel, as it turned out to be seized on too tightly. Use penetrant spray. Secure the tool before you turn it, and be careful as you start to untighten because the diameter of the tool is slightly smaller (or larger, I forget) than the freewheel it engages and is liable to slipping.

Ah! I am really glad to hear that I am not alone in that situation!
When back home yesterday evening, I checked the tool on the other freewheel I have, on the wheel that needs spokes to be replaced... And it is the same problem that with the shimano 600 freewheel, the teeth of the tool ater too wide...
I will file this down with a dremel, try to find the tighter adjustment / tolerance, and do as you say... I won't be able to do it before january now so I will leave some WD-40 sitting on the freewheel in the meantime...

Thanks for all your contributions guys!

Loic

In Mildy, we never had the right tools for this kind of job so used pin pliers.. last resort..

Do you mean that you opened the freewheel and destroyed it to take it away? Otherwise I can't see how you can get a grip to remove the whole thing with pliers...? Anyway, I agree that destroying the freewheel will be my last option... It's campag hub with nice rim (thin alloy 27X1-1/4) so I guess it worth it, I have a spare freewheel in stock, but a modern one, not as good as the existing (super thin new style sprockets, made in taiwan, noisy, blah blah...)

Loic

It lets you take the lockring off and service the bearing areas. The centre 'axle' bit stays in place, unless you need to remove the whole lot, in which case we'd file on some flats and wedge it in the bench vice. Turn the rim and you can remove the remains of the freewheel like this.

Thanks!... I hope I won't have to go there though!

Loic

It lets you take the lockring off and service the bearing areas. The centre 'axle' bit stays in place, unless you need to remove the whole lot, in which case we'd file on some flats and wedge it in the bench vice. Turn the rim and you can remove the remains of the freewheel like this.

Hi all!

Just a little update...

So I tried to remove the freewheel on the wheel that need spoke replacement...

Complete failure, I filed a few as I can from the two peg parktool remover, as discussed above, they were a fraction too big, but it would not let go, at the end I damaged the recess/grip on the freewheel and also the tool (a little, I hope it can be used again on my other wheel...)

So I gave up and when the brutal destructive way (as suggested by Hippy earlier on that thread),openned the freewheel, put it in a vice and managed to remove it... I serviced the hub, found out that the spare spokes I had were too long, and that the spare 5 speed freewheel I had was wider than the original one... I could play with the spacers and re-dish the wheel, but fat like I am I will only manage to bend the axle as it would be sticking out more on the drive side, blah blah blah blah....
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Bike servicing can be really annoying sometimes!

Just found out that SJS were not stocking Regina freewheels anymore... anyway I don't want to spend £45 on a freewheel for that wheel...

Loic

.... blah balh...Just found out that SJS were not stocking Regina freewheels anymore... anyway I don't want to spend £45 on a freewheel for that wheel...

My mistake, they still stock Regina, but no 5 speeds ones apparently...

Loic

I received the tool this morning...

So I have two set of wheels with that kind of 2 pins system... I don't know the brand of the freewheel I need to remove on the rear wheel that needs spokes replacement (the problem that I orignally try to solve... what a pain for just a couple of spokes on the drive side!!). The other wheel is fine, doesn't need servicing at the moment (althought it need a new axle...) and is fitted with a Shimano 600 freewheel, that's the bike I use on daily basis at the moment. I just tried now the tool and the pins on the Parktool FR-2 are a fraction (less than 3/10 of a millimeter I reckon) too big, so I would need to file down the tool if I wanted to take off the freewheel... Bloody bikes, nothing is ever simple... I hope that it be the similar situation on my other freewheel, otherwise, if it's filled down, it will be too loose for one of them!!!
What a nightmare!!

Loic

Did you get sorted with the tool for your Shimano 600 freewheel. I have same problem. Also have FR2, which is too big. Did it file / grind down easily? Did you find the right tool? Any help would be amazing. Thanks