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Just ordered 200 of these self taping, carbide studs, at 60p each. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU etc.
There are plenty of cheaper options. But I really wanted steel carbide, and I wanted easy installation.
I am going take my Big Fat Larrys, leave the central lugs stud free, and then stud the 2 rows ever side in an alternating pattern, missing a lug between each studded lug. This gives a nice spread of 100 studs per tyre. Which should be perfect, considering the size of the tyre and its use. Most expensive 3kg tyre set ever!
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Just ordered 200 of these self taping, carbide studs, at 60p each. FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUU etc.
Ouch. I got 722 studs in my Ice Spikers for less than that.
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Ouch. I got 722 studs in my Ice Spikers for less than that.
Exactly.
Also those factory inserted studs will sit as well as mine, are made from the same materials as mine, and weigh the same.
The only difference is that I can screw mine in and out with a special tool, and a screw driver. A very expensive convience. But I would probably destroy my tyres if I attempted a more DIY approach.
Its tempting to wack some in some winter MTB shoes. I hate the shock each time you put a foot down. Only to realise your feet have a 10th of the traction your tyres do.
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Just spend a good couple hours in Dorset test riding a singlespeed Pugsley.
Despite the fact it's singlespeed, it's fucking awesome, riding on loose gravel feel like riding on tarmac, no longer have to pick a line cause it'll just go through it with such confident, you'll no longer worry about the front wheel slipping on wet roots.
it's truly a go-anywhere bicycle, I have more confident riding the Pugsley off road than any MTB I've ridden in the past.
hardest thing is simply the steering feedback which required a little more input, but that's just something I need to get used to.
Best news ever: I discovered I can get Pugsley through Evans, so that mean trade price instead of retail.
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Go for it.
Just come back from a winter trail ride on the 29er. Both myself and the bike are bruised and battered. Nothing broken though. Was running my WeirWolfs, as its soft and wet on my side of the mountian. On the other side, which doesnt see any sun it was a fecking ice rink.
Fun though :D
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the 29ers felt like it have a skinny road tyres after a good couple of hours blasting it with the Pugsley, I reckon you'll end up using it for everything beside the snow.
Although it's truly a drag on the road, expected to be honest.
my main concern is building a 29ers wheelset for it to use on the Great Divide, as I liked to have a do-it-all bicycle, I somewhat don't think it's possible to build a 29ers with the offset of the Pugsley, I can change the fork for a normal 100mm spacing one but the rear is a bit tricky.
In another news, salsa at it again;
http://reviews.mtbr.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/proto_talk_8334.jpg
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, I somewhat don't think it's possible to build a 29ers with the offset of the Pugsley, I can change the fork for a normal 100mm spacing one but the rear is a bit tricky.
What sort of rims are you looking at?
I've gone with 80mm. Doesnt give quite as much awesome snow float as the 100mm rims with a 4.7" tyre, and is'nt quite as muddy trail friendly, as a 65mm one, with a 3.7" tyre. But does a pretty good job of both. I love the idea of some 3.7" (black floyds) slicks for gravel path touring.
If you're going with a 65mm large marge. You can chuck Hookworms on for faster riding (see pic), and still get a great profile with a mud tyre like a Nate, or a Husker Du. I'm pretty sure people are running their Black floyds at twice the PSI of the other fat tyres, for road riding. So I guess they feel a fair bit different.
I dont see why people dont want full time fat myself.
Also. I get the impression the 2.5" -> 3.5" market will not be so sparse for long............
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Also. Marge light, might be the rim for you.
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Just saw this;
Like I said a few pages back. I'm sure folk have done it. I'd just rather have a selection of fat tyres intead. That pugs looks set-up for gravel paths. Something which would be equally doable on some Black Floyd tyres. Maybe the pic is from before these tyres became availible. Those custom drilled 29er rims (unicycle rims?), built into a heavily dished wheel dont appeal either.
But then I have a 29er, (which I am looking to add a sus fork to. To make it more of an agressive trail bike), so my opinion is somewhat viod.
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new full suspensions fat bike prototype from salsa. bejesus...
http://salsacycles.com/culture/prototype_talk_full-suspension_fatbike/
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Sorry if this is a pea roast I think Its awesome;
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new full suspensions fat bike prototype from salsa. bejesus...
http://salsacycles.com/culture/prototype_talk_full-suspension_fatbike/Thats causing quiet some discussion.
I actually read..."why do such big wheels need suspension"....somewhere. Sound familiar?
I'm thinking the snow and sand riders dont really need it. In fact suspension in the winter can be a PITA. But while the fat low PSI tyres do great work on the bumps, they wont provide much help on the dips. If I was a mud rider, i'd be all over this.
3.7" Surly Nates, on 65mm Marge rims, on a full sus frame. That would be a tank.
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Just spend a good couple hours in Dorset test riding a singlespeed Pugsley.
Despite the fact it's singlespeed, it's fucking awesome, riding on loose gravel feel like riding on tarmac, no longer have to pick a line cause it'll just go through it with such confident, you'll no longer worry about the front wheel slipping on wet roots.
it's truly a go-anywhere bicycle, I have more confident riding the Pugsley off road than any MTB I've ridden in the past.
hardest thing is simply the steering feedback which required a little more input, but that's just something I need to get used to.
Best news ever: I discovered I can get Pugsley through Evans, so that mean trade price instead of retail.
Or you could actually learn to ride.
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Or you could actually learn to ride.
building a tank > learning off-road skills
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The Pugsly is designed to be a MTB. It doesnt have the long wheelbase, long headtube, and slack angles of a lot of other fatbikes. So Its basically down to the tyres.
Do you need that much of a contact patch?
Is it worth the mad increase in weight and rolling resistance?On a beach, in a swamp, or on soft snow. Its probably worth it. I cant say if its worth it on your local mud trails. I would'nt be on mine, most of the time, 29" x 2.5" is more than enough for them. Lets not get into a discussion of 'performance' though. I aint racing, I'm having fun, and keeping fit.
I'll still get some XC tyres though. Gives me these trail riding options.
29" x 2.2/2.5" (Geax Saguaro / WTB WeirWolf on SS 29er)
700C x 35mm (Kenda small block on CX bike)
26" x 3.7" (Huske Du's on fatbike):D
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I have done a lots of MTBing when I was growing up, I'd like to says I'm fairly experiences with riding MTB in general from full sus downhiller, FS cross country to a fully rigid 29ers.
The Pugsley really does feel like a different kettle of fish to ride, even on the local trail, it's fantastic to ride, the only problem is when the trail become tarmac'd, and this is when the Pugsley feel hard work to ride on (steering notably).
what I can defintely tell you that it's not fast, if you want to go fast, take a normal MTB.
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my beater in wintermode. 35mm paselas, kick brake, good stuff.
the frame is 56 blb track, fork is identiti ffx20