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Sorry for any hijacking of the thread.
The best city I've cycled in is Berlin, better than Amsterdam. Never been to Copenhagen. Cyclists have their own lanes but I wouldn't call most of the lanes fully segregated. It's only partly the lanes, it's more driver behaviour, the courtesy afforded cyclists in Berlin is astonishing, cars would overtake on your left indicating right AND THEN WAIT! The driver would wait till I came up the inside and pass the junction.
My old commute was through East London to SE1, on the fastest roads, the main roads into The City. The chances of getting all those roads closed to all motor traffic and left just for cyclists are slim. I mean,it will never happen. We are traffic, mix with the traffic.