Time Trial / Time Trialling / TT

Tell you what Dimi, why don't we go out and do the same one? Chat about it next time I see you. I'm sure Laner would be up for joining us too.

Def.

N00b wet-lips unite!

I'd say for someone who's not done a 10mi before 28min is a good time to aim for. It's quite easy to misjudge the distance and go too hard or too easy. After a few TTs you should have it nailed and find out the point where you can pull out the best times.

After my first TT I was constantly improving every week until after 15 TTs my time leveled off.

Atm, I can pull out a 25min 10 on my fixed TT bike. I'd say that I'm not as fit as you lot. There's something to aim for. I doubt you will finish disappointed in yourself.

I can do 28ish on the road on 72GI when not in an event. Time to put my money (lungs) where my mouth is, grab my road bike and have a go I think.

If you do it fixed try 81gi.

I'm now on 87gi, which gives me an average cadence of 100rpm. Just right imo.

I'd say for someone who's not done a 10mi before 28min is a good time to aim for. .

It's a very good time, my commute time with the start/stop traffic of London is a shy under 40 minutes (10 miles), I reckon more than half the people can do a 28 minutes TT, I too feel like having a stab at that.

Apart from Pisti of course.

average cadence of 100rpm. Just right imo.

Just right for you...maybe. Have you tried other options?

Remember kids, it's a time trial not a pedalling contest*, so if your best times come from 60rpm or 120rpm, don't be led astray by people who tell you that you're pedalling too slow/fast

*Unless you're in a Medium Gear event, in which case most people will be riding above their optimal cadence.

That's what I should have made clearer. I find around 100 just right for me. I've tried a bigger gear but it was too much. I've even been told that "around 100" is too slow! And that was from a national coach (fucking idiot)

Commuting and TTing is different though, you don't go flat out planning to get to work where your legs feel like jelly and your stomach wants to invert itself.

If you can do a sub 6 hour 100 and a 28 minute training 10 on 72" you will easily be capable of 26 minute 10, realistically once you get used to pace judgement you should be looking at 24 minutes as a target.

I only rode a few 10's this year, fastest was a 27 (within 2 1/2 minutes of the winner on a crap course where few riders beat 24 minutes) with no aero kit and a 90inch gear. I've never averaged 19mph at Regent's s on that basis you have nothing to worry about.

2011 Season round up:
30 races, 1 on Hirame fixie skidder, 2 on Look 464 track bike, 2 on Pompetamine, 3 on Look 585 road bike, 22 on Koga FPT fixed TT bike
500 miles in 21:17:42, 23.48mph average
Single speed/fixed rides average cadence 86rpm
Fasted pedalling: 73" @ 105rpm = 26:20 for 10 miles
Slowest pedalling: 100" @ 80rpm = 2:6:46 for 50 miles
Highest speed: 26.2mph, 100" @ 88rpm = 22:56 for 10 miles on TT bike
Slowest speed: 19.5mph, 72" @ 91rpm = 30:45 for 10 miles on Pompetamine

Commuting and TTing is different though, you don't go flat out planning to get to work where your legs feel like jelly and your stomach wants to invert itself.

That's my point, if you can managed your commute under 40 minutes with the start stop traffic without overdoing yourself, then 28 minutes TT shouldn't be much of a problem.

If you can do a sub 6 hour 100 and a 28 minute training 10 on 72" you will easily be capable of 26 minute 10, realistically once you get used to pace judgement you should be looking at 24 minutes as a target.

I only rode a few 10's this year, fastest was a 27 (within 2 1/2 minutes of the winner on a crap course where few riders beat 24 minutes) with no aero kit and a 90inch gear. I've never averaged 19mph at Regent's s on that basis you have nothing to worry about.

Not even on the day we bumped into each other? You leathered it off afterwards when I explained that I was so knackered that I couldn't sustain conversation any more and had to warm down! The guys I was out with that day until I punctured within 100m of starting (JAMIE and Laner) averaged 20ish on 48x18ish and you appeared to be travelling at quite some lick on your track gearing. I was fucked after that session.

Anyway...hour of power thread is elsewhere I guess.

I'm going to try on gears first and then fixed. I've got a carbon track TT frame that is screaming out for some fun on a road TT but I thought I'd set a benchmark with gears first.

Oh and thanks for the encouragement on times. Thats a long way off though! I'm not sure I'll get many runs in this year due to the need to concentrate on endurance until mid-summer. I have a feeling the initial gains will be sizeable but 26 mins seems a very very long way off if indeed I can achieve it.

Enough TT chat from Stonehedge. I'll just pick an event, go for it and report back here for debriefing.

I'm going to be doing my first TT soon.. Slightly tentative but have been ready (in my mind, bikes still not quite there!) for nearly a year.

If anyone else fancies it..

It's going to be a Yorkshire Cycling Federation 10 on 26 Feb, not sure which course, bikes from pre 1990 only need apply ;)

Don't have my handbook yet either, but remember seeing something about a hilly 20 in Kettering in March...

http://ctt.org.uk/Events/EventsList/tabid/134/Default.aspx

Same here actually.. CTT.. It's a shit organisation.. So a shit website is a given.

South East District events http://www.cttsoutheastdistrict.org.uk/calendar.php

London South events (not complete ) http://londonsouthdc.blogspot.com/2012/01/full-london-south-2012-calendar.html

The book was supposed to be printed on the 20th I think. I guess they're adding rides to the site still.

Yes, I could've won the club 50 trophy if I'd bothered to enter one. Doh!

I'm doing all distances this year just to cover all bases, to get a BBAR rank, to get a Long BAR rank and to attempt to get the club records for 12 and 24hr (primary goal).

This always happens with the events list at the start of the year (on the CTT site). They'll all be up soon.

I never look at the site.. can't wait to get the highlighter onto the book though.

I never look at the site.. can't wait to get the highlighter onto the book though.

Highlighter and those post it page marker thingies colour coding for 10's, 25's and 50's..

FTW

any 50s in the general South East area happening this side of June?

From the London West list:
13/05/12 08:00 Charlotteville Cycling Club H50/8

London West District
http://www.lwdc.co.uk/Events/Default.aspx