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OK... I'm gonna ask a load of annoying questions about that Rossin above, since I am in the market for a road frame. 58cm is close enough to my size, so hopefully someone can answer soon.. why are these so cheap? Is the normal price for these frames so low? Are they real Rossin frames (They look bloody ugly, and cheap paint but the ride ought to be great, right)? I was always under the impression that Rossin bikes went for silly money. The Columbus Altec frame is likely to be a 1 1/8 right? I'm guessing that would be the one to go for over the genius, just for upgrade options...?