Waterproof Cycling Ruck sack / Rucksack / Back pack / Backpack / Backpacks

i had misunderstood moogs suggestion too. those clever chaps at MW!

But can they make a pebble look like a guinea pig? I rest my case!

It would be improved if there was a bit of a cut away in the fabric where the loop is pulled from (just above where the elastic on the lock barrel is in the photo) to give better access as it can be a bit fiddley at times.

That's what I meant. ;]

But can they make a pebble look like a guinea pig? I rest my case!

What? Some kind of dark magic is afoot..

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oh my GOD!

The otter is beyond rad

I'm not picking fault with the bags at all...i think their backpacks are great..

You know, I was in TFG a while ago and was looking at their bag, the first thing come to mind is "that look like something Scott would approved".

Glad to hear that they're good, the price is insane after being used to the Grobag's pricing.

Has anyone got any experience of either the T-level Infinity roll-top or Challenger packs?
They look pretty good for the money.
Failing that, can anyone reccomend me something similar that has both a waist and chest belt/strap and can easily fit a 17" macbook + other gear?

Edit: Just popped in to TFG and bought a T-level rolltop, first impressions are pretty good. Ill try and write up detailed reveiw after Ive used it for a few weeks.

I've been using a T-Level Challenger for a month or so now and I really like it. It was either the T-Level or a Mission Workshop Rambler and, aside from the expense, the Rambler didn't have all the functionality I wanted (mainly pockets and dividers) and I found it quite fiddly to use.

Whilst the materials on the Rambler are, IMO, stronger and seem more durable, the Challenger is still a tough bag that is very well made, and is very comfortable to wear (the padding and shaping of the back gives me a more comfortable fit than the Rambler I tried). It has a massive capacity too, you can get loads of shopping in there and it's easily big enough for a 'weekend away' bag. They also provide velcro tidies with each strap, which is a lovely touch (especially as there are a lot of straps).

My criticisms are that it collapses a bit when there's not much in it (which is fine as I've always got stuff in it), and the materials used for the internal dividers and pockets are a little on the flimsy side. Also it's been fine in rain so far but it's nowhere near as waterproof as the Rambler. I think in a real sustained downpour it would suffer.

That why I didn't go for the Challenger, the fact it collapsible when not many stuff in it.

Still rocking my Mission Workshop Rambler, felt so strong and durable.

The Rambler is certainly the forum's most popular pack at the moment. And for good reason. I still prefer the Challenger though.

How much stuff can you fit in the Rambler (in practical terms, beer/loo roll/shopping, rather than cubic inches)?

Not decided between the Rambler, Vandal or Chrome Backbone.

I was in TFG last week and had a look at the Fitzroy model from Mission Workshop. I brought my brother a Rambler as a present and have been having a spot of bag envy. The Fitzroy imho offers pretty stiff competition to the Rambler. It is not expandable, but rather has one big pocket. But what makes it attractive is a better range of smaller pockets to organise your stuff. I would be hard pressed to decide between the two.

http://missionworkshop.com/products/bags/backpacks/rucksack/fitzroy.php

Just ordered one of these in the 30litre size and on opening it looks like an awesome waterproof bag

http://www.alpkit.com/shop/cart.php?target=product&product_id=16363&category_id=295

Shall load it up and test it asap in hopefully the rain although i dont want to get wet again :)

Read good things about them on other forums.

If they were a bit more practical (internal pockets etc) I'd have got one already

Can't say anything bad about my alpkit gourdon 30L, great bag very waterproof, only bad side is if you put a takeaway in it the window fogs up!

I orered the stealthy one so has no window, agree the lack of internal pockets isnt a good thing but also bought a small dry bag off ebay and attached it inside to act as a phone,wallet,keys pocket which hopefully works fine :)

Quite a good review of the T-Level Infinity here http://fxdfwd.co.uk/?page_id=2127 and another one here http://takeoverla.blogspot.com/2010/06/official-t-level-infinity-rolltop.html

I've been using it for about a month now and have to say i haven't had a remotely sweaty back once whilst using it. It was a bit bigger than i was expecting, but I've also never found myself in a situation where i couldn't carry something.

^ I've got one too. Great bag, the news ones seem to have compression straps on the sides and are made of a slightly thicker material and are very nice.

Yeah I wouldn't go as far as to call them compression straps cos the thickness of the side panels prevents any real compression, but they're really useful for securing tripods/cardboardtubes to the side. The amount of adjustable straps is ridiculous, i still havent worked out what some of them do.

Me either, the ones on top of the shoulder straps particularly.

from mw i've had rambler vandal (both were too large for daily use and too unpractical when going climbing or hiking, when I need a lot of space) and now I've had sanction for about 3 months. Loving it. Looks better than vandal/rambler too imo. The straps are great when when carrying something big like a frozen pizza box, U lock pocket works a lot better than the strap system on rambler. Just the right amount of space for my daily use. Fits few books, laptop, climbing/sport/indoor shoes and clothes.

This thread is really helpful and I was hoping someone could tell me a good place in London to browse for these and similar bags?
Also, best value for money?

Tokyo Fixed Gear often have a good supply. Condor cycles have some too.