Which rim for a Cross Check / Peregrine Singular et al?

Hi all, couldn't find a suitable thread but maybe I wasn't looking in the right places.

I'm thinking of building up comfortable but versatile ride a la Crosscheck / Peregrine which will have the possiblity to add gears (hub or derailleur) later.

What type of rims should I look at? I had thought that originally Open Pros would do the job, but have since read somewhere that you can't get much bigger than 28s onto such a rim.

Any suggestions for the kinds of rims I speak off? For 28s and above? Both suitable for road and off-road conditions (gravel etc). Thanks!

Rigida do loads of rims for bigger tyres.
Grizzly with tungsten carbide brake surface = dorra
Sputnik = cheap as chips, 40 spokes available, tough as old boots, weigh a ton.

Nice one Skulls, anything which is above average but not mega pricey and light, don't really want something that weights a ton!

I have some Halo Excite-R rims on my commuter which I selected for just this sort of bike (I'm thinking Salsa Vaya frameset though). For use off-road, commuting, and load carrying. Currently have them on my CX commuter and they do a decent job.

They are the easiest rims I've ever built up. As they are both stiff and eyeleted.

http://www.halorims.com/products-details.php?id=RMHAXR72

Well the basic grizzly is cheap, lighter than sputnik, and rated by the beardy ctc types.

I've run 32mm tyres (measured, not what is printed on them, which has been 35mm and 30mm) on open pro rims with no problem.
This is at relatively low pressures too -around 40psi.

(To counter that I've run 23mm tyres on a wider touring rim too, also with no problems.
It just looked very different to the front wheel which was an open pro.)

However the bike was not loaded. If you are doing proper lugging of stuff around I would go for a wider rim.

Thomas

The A719 is Mavics top notch touring rim designed for 28c to 4?c.
The A119 is a cheaper alternative but Rigida are usually good value.

True, an open pro takes a 37 on the front wheel of my bash bike easily, no bead problems yet. But they, and Mavic 719 (like the touring dt) cost the best part if £50. I think for the money, rigida seem to be a no-brainer. I put a sputnik on the rear of the same bike, on a coaster, and it feels really good.

Thanks NMK, the bike will be mainly for slower commuting in the winter and relaxing trips where mashing it and lycra are not required. Still 40 PSI sounds too low I think...

Thanks Skully, cash is no prob just want to get something versatile and good quality. Thinking about White industires hubs and chainset as well for bling factor!

Sounds nice. FWIW a Mavic A719 rim is about 200g lighter than a Rigida Sputnik.

I've got CXP33s on my Crosscheck. They have the same width as OPs and I have had 1.8" tyres on them (45mm or so) offroad at about 35 PSI no problem. Currently got 32c marathon plus on them at 90psi and also no problem. I wanted a bit more stength and mud shedding ability so went for the deeper profile.

If you don't mind some added weight and want more strength and certainty over tyres then touring rims would be good or 29er disc rims if you go with the Singular. I've got some DT Swiss TK 7.1s on my 29er and they are good with a 2.2" tyre. Not cheap, although I got mine second hand built into wheels at a great price from a forum.

Sounds nice. FWIW a Mavic A719 rim is about 200g lighter than a Rigida Sputnik.

Don't know about grizzly, they're meant to be sustantially lighter than sputnik. And still only £18...

If money's no object, I'd go DT... Your wheelbuild will be dreamy.

Velocity A23 from BLB ~£45 per rim. Around the same weight as the open pros, lots of drillings, lots of colours, recommended by people who use clinchers for cx.

More details here: http://www.wheelbuilder.com/store/velocity-a23-clincher-rim.html

Also just remembered the Stans Alpha 340. No experience of them yet though.

Like the Velocity they are new wider road rims designed for 23-25c tyres, but alright for wider widths.

I'd also suggest looking at 29er rims. Most will be disc tho.

But if you're looking at a singluar it's disc completable.

Have a look thru http://www.wheelbuilder.com/ for possible options. Unless you're carrying real weight, it seems like touring rims are now a bit OTT in terms of weight, where there are other options out there.

Just my internet informed 2p.

Nobodies mentioned velocity Dyads yet. I feel someone should, so I shall.

Velocity Dyad.

Hmmm, lots of options, the Mavic A719 for sturdiness or Velocity A23 for a tad niftier option seem like the best for me at this rate...

another option
http://www.lfgss.com/thread75634.html

Also the Mavic A319 which is between 119 and 719. I built mine up a couple of months back and they are nice and wide, and seem very tough. Rode 10 miles home on a flat the other week with absolutely no harmful effects (to rim anyway, my shoulders and wrists were fucked!)

And while a 35c can fit on an Open Pro it is not making full use of the width as when the same tyre is on a 19mm internal width rim it forms the shape it is supposed to along with containing more air.

Also the Mavic A319 which is between 119 and 719. I built mine up a couple of months back and they are nice and wide, and seem very tough. Rode 10 miles home on a flat the other week with absolutely no harmful effects (to rim anyway, my shoulders and wrists were fucked!)

And while a 35c can fit on an Open Pro it is not making full use of the width as when the same tyre is on a 19mm internal width rim it forms the shape it is supposed to along with containing more air.

This^

If you happen to have OPs then fair enougth. But buying OPs to run 35mm tyres is false economy. You'll be more prone to pinch flats, so you will need more pressure, which you might as well be running on a 28mm. I'd get the widest rim to fit the job. You get the max out of your tyres. Lower PSI, with the same rolling resistance, but with more grip.

Which is why you want the Dyad, or the excite-r.

Dt Swiss TK540. Like no other rims I've ever built...so well made.

Them's the ones^.

I have the DT swiss TK540 rims and I've been using them off road for nearly a year without any complaints. I've paired them with Michelin Mud 2 tyres (30) which seem to run well at low pressure without pinch flats.

I had a pair of DT Swiss TK 7.1s, perfect on/off road.
Mavic A319s were also good, very strong and comfortable with 40c tyres.

The crosscheck is great ride, i've had mine built up in so many different ways, however, the singular looks ace.

Chris

What frame size you going for btw - read on a review that the cc has clearance up to 50 but tested on a 54 frame (56 top tube) the toe overlap was pretty bad. I'm an interested party as looking to build up a cc myself.