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I know but I bought a bike, second hand, which had these fitted.
For a second hand bike it fitted me like a glove and after making a few small adjustments I got the dimensions exactly the same as another bike that Sherrit(sp) had fitted for me. On the fitting the stem length was reduced and we parted with the advice that, if still not perfect, take another 10 mm off the stem.
I managed to get another set of these bars off ebay recently, 10mm shorter for the second hand bike and, as luck would have it, the ones I removed are spot on, including the 10mm reduction, for the other bike. This is also the bike I use at night. I could have stuck the bars on ebay and got my money back but I find these soooo comfortable so I swapped them over.