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@lovecloughfixie
oooh, sounds like you were lucky. i did try them again, but it just wasn't happening for me, i couldn't climb with them at all. i think it's because i'm so used to flat bars (from mtb to brommie to a short flirt with anatomic drops to flat bar fixie), maybe my muscles have got strong in certain places.
but i'm now wondering how long my charge risers will last? they do seem quite thick walled, can i get a set of steel risers?