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@colm
thanks all,
mashing like a lunatic out of the saddle is prob the wrong way, more torque control over the full crank rotation makes better sense. never knew about the straight arms, will try that next weekend.
Ill check out the coaching weekend but it would be expensive for me.
I watched Martyn Irvine do standing starts during the summer and his technique was perfect, but it looked strange to me because of watching others with less experience/not pros, Ill have to work on it. I have a relatively quick powerful start but Im losing alot of time with the messy technique(lack of)
gotta check out that website again, found it last nite and had a quick glance, seems like what Ive been looking for ,for a while now