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  • ok back to Plod who does want to reach your dotage in one piece- if the fine was raised to say £200 or more it'd have some respect for a different reason, and I reckon sure as eggs is eggs lights would be present and correct.

    Really the fine should be in line with the cost of clearing up the aftermath of a cyclist being knocked off through having no lights...............

    You can get reasonable lights for not a huge amount- e-bay has many, yes for the better lights they do cost more, and yes back ups are required, and yes lights can be a proverbial pain in the arse when they fail- it would seem reasonable to make them waterproof, maybe the Kite mark, as was, should have covered that aspect as well as the candle power/lumens

    If riding round like a Christmas tree will help save my life then so be it.

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