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@Smallfurry
I dunno TBH.
I was supporting the use of alu athena. In case my grammar was totally fecked.
I still think Apex is a great groupset to get for utility purposes. Its cheap, sturdy, quite light, has the easy to use double tap system, can be mixed with Sram MTN bits, and you can use some Shimano bits too. Its looks would be the last thing I'd argue for. But then there's no point arguing over issues of taste.