2011-10-24 - Rider Down/Fatality, Bow flyover

Of course one fatality is too many but the frequency is frankly unnerving. RIP.

RIP.

Again - hope something good can come from this.

That is pretty shocking. Do any cycling groups investigate TfL's duty of care to cyclists?

The Kings Cross environment blog are encouraging the coroner and CPS who are looking after Min Joo Lee's case to push for a corporate manslaughter case against TfL over King's Cross:
http://www.kingscrossenvironment.com/2011/10/badgyrations.html

They need road user's experiences as part of their case, so if you can help do join in over on their website. The whole process is well worth a read too.

This isn't really the place to discuss this though, maybe we should set up an "Action" post?

Condolences, my thoughts are with the riders friends and family.

RIP

My condolences to the family and friends of the cyclist - very sad news indeed.

On another note - isn't this an area that was highligted recently as the CS was not going to be continued through the roundabout until after the Olympics? I think I remember Newham Council saying they didn't want to extend the CS over the roundabout because they didn't want to encourage any more cyclists to this dangerous junction?

Also @markbikeslondon I agree there should be another post for action on this - it just seems like this is happening far too often!

RIP cyclist. The frequency of this is getting depressing.

Very sad news. RIP.

RIP
On another note - isn't this an area that was highligted recently as the CS was not going to be continued through the roundabout until after the Olympics? I think I remember Newham Council saying they didn't want to extend the CS over the roundabout because they didn't want to encourage any more cyclists to this dangerous junction?

Correct. The mayor of Newham won't do anything to improve safety for cyclists around there because he doesn't think cycling on roads should be encouraged. That was the case about six months ago anyway; I doubt anything has changed though the Newham LCC group will know.

Awful news again, thoughts are with friends and family.

My girlfriend told me about this last night, her workshop is there between bow arts trust and the Macdonalds and she saw ambulances etc, we could not find anything about it on the net until now and both of us very sad to hear of another cyclists death. Our thoughts go out to his family and friends. Don't know if it had anything to do with it but that stretch of 'superhighway' is a farce, narrow, broken and always with vehicles parked in it. Pointless.

Why do people keep dying for doing the right thing? Why are they being punished for being more environmentally friendly, health concious and reducing congestion. Surely these are the people we should be most protecting. Why are we letting them down. Why does this continue to happen?

RIP fellow cyclist

RIP cyclist

RIP another pointless tragedy because people value time and money over life .

Thoughts with victim and his family.

TfL & BoJo really need to reflect on this. If they don't, we must make them.

Not again. Our thoughts are with this guy's family and friends.

I heard of this while in a meeting with Hackney Borough who are already rolling out training for all their HGV drivers, including on bike sessions. They are hoping to offer it to all transport operators in the borough and to make it a condition of planning applications that drivers delivering to sites should also get this level of training.

That's one horrible roundabout I use it daily for my commute thankfully for me I was off yesterday or might have been caught up in the accident, very sad news that another cyclist has lost there life RIP cyclist

thoughts and prayers with the rider, friends and family.

yes i have posted on here for a number or years that this road environment is dangerous. and particularly for cyclists.

i have also made representations to the olympics travel orgainsers about the dangerous conditions that exist for riders trying to access this area of london.

of course i have been largely ignored and sidelined.

This is one of the roundabouts where fatalities are programmed into the 'design'. Horrible and not at all surprising. May the rider rest in peace, and consolences to his family. :(

Yes, the roundabout itself was not part of the Superhighway. Having said that, the Superhighway funding wouldn't have done much good here. What's required is a wholesale redesign, demolition of the flyover and a proper, tighter at-grade junction, with some decent development around it. It's a million-pound project to eradicate the stupidity of the past.

[SIZE=3]RIP poor cyclist. My condolences to all who knew him. [/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3]This is what I sent to TfL last week..[/SIZE]
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[SIZE=3] I was very gratified to view tonight's vital report on the London Regional News about the most recent cycling fatality. I sincerely hope it will dissuade innocent cyclists from putting their lives at risk on London roads.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]This is just to say I will support any move to prosecute TfL for corporate maslaughter. The marketing of the cycle hire scheme and cycle superhighways should never have proceeded without a ban on HGVs in the rush hour. There would have been another fatality at London Bridge today but for the guerilla tactics of the woman involved. This vehicle should never have been at London Bridge in the rush hour! [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]I do not require a reply as I am in full possession of the facts. I have watched this situation escalate into the nightmare we have now and it must stop. After cycling many thousands of miles in London I have all but given up. The times I have come closest to death have all been in the last 18 months and all with HGVs in good visibility on straight roads nowhere near junctions. There has to be some accountability.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]I sincerely hope to see someone from TfL in the dock next time a cyclist is mown down, particularly if it occurs at Blackfriars, Vauxhall, Kings Cross or Elephant and Castle.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]I hope everyone will make their feelings known.. Might make someone feel a little bit uncomfortable. Maybe.[/SIZE]

Commiserations to the victim and his people.

RIP cyclist, condolences to family and friends. I am just so sad about this happening yet again.

rip fellow rider

Very sad. I commuted over that flyover for a year when I was living in London and it truly is a horrible junction. RIP.

RIP another pointless tragedy because people value time and money over life .

this is it.

rip, such sad news

Hi guys just created this account after reading this distressing news, I remember a friend of a nurse friend dying by a left turning lorry just east of the green bridge at Mile End some seventeen years ago.
My contribution to the discussion is that the last time I tried to negotiate the bow flyover I was going to Stratford from Whitechapel for a carers meeting, I was in a hurry and all the back routes were blocked off, none of the changes were marked and there was no attempt to redirect onto safer routes, I then found myself on a feeder route I think onto the Blackwall tunnel, I finally found the only route was the main drag, no double entendre intended.
I did explore the new link by the canal recently and like the other contributor, found it to be going in the wrong direction, nice if you want a pleasant cycle to Vicky Park, but useless for going to Stratford. Then once the other side of the circle of death (Bow Flyover) I found notices proclaiming the previously mentioned back routes would be out of commission until I think it said 2015.
Stay alive, luv C xx

[SIZE=3]RIP poor cyclist. My condolences to all who knew him. [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]This is what I sent to TfL last week..[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3] I was very gratified to view tonight's vital report on the London Regional News about the most recent cycling fatality. I sincerely hope it will dissuade innocent cyclists from putting their lives at risk on London roads.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]This is just to say I will support any move to prosecute TfL for corporate maslaughter. The marketing of the cycle hire scheme and cycle superhighways should never have proceeded without a ban on HGVs in the rush hour. There would have been another fatality at London Bridge today but for the guerilla tactics of the woman involved. This vehicle should never have been at London Bridge in the rush hour! [/SIZE][SIZE=3] [/SIZE]

[SIZE=3]I do not require a reply as I am in full possession of the facts. I have watched this situation escalate into the nightmare we have now and it must stop. After cycling many thousands of miles in London I have all but given up. The times I have come closest to death have all been in the last 18 months and all with HGVs in good visibility on straight roads nowhere near junctions. There has to be some accountability.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3] [/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]I sincerely hope to see someone from TfL in the dock next time a cyclist is mown down, particularly if it occurs at Blackfriars, Vauxhall, Kings Cross or Elephant and Castle.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=3][/SIZE]
[SIZE=3]I hope everyone will make their feelings known.. Might make someone feel a little bit uncomfortable. Maybe.[/SIZE]

You're kidding, right?! These people have more front than than Blackpool...until it's brought home and it's their own daughter or a media darling that's being scraped off the cold concrete that they're burying....

Contemptuous ****s