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@fatoldbloke
"the guy who built these frames went to prison for running over and killing a milkman , then driving off, honest, i have read this on the net, it must be true , sod the bike check it and let me know what you find, im gonna find his name, anyway he built bikes, and also now days he would have not of got in trouble for such a crime as there aint no bloody milkman left"
gold!