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Thanks GA2G, you've put my mind at rest regarding bottle jacks, as my M18 is the same width as the fagh mini (0.05in narrower actually according to the krypto website). As your no doubt aware the Krypto M18NX (which i have/use) is actually quite long, a lot longer than normanl U locks like the standard krypto new york lock or abus granite 54 which are on the recommended list. So this nullifies the Edscoble of fred method of filling the lock. But the length of my M18 is what i really like about it, as i found the fagh min that i once owned too fiddly