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  • Fair enough, they are good bikes, and I wasn't suggesting that endless lugged steel frames, in slightly different iterations, isn't also dull. Just that I understand why many people prefer the classic look. I do think that the design of most contemporary OTP bikes is sloppy from an aesthetic point of view, and I just can't get on with compact geometry on a road bike. But as I said this is just my point of view, and one of the great things about bikes is that there is still a lot of choice for the individual.

    Unfortunately my long legs/short torso means I have to like sloping geom.

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