Exactly how is this simply nonsense? Where is your evidence?
You yourself campaigned vociferously that cyclists sharing space with motorcycles did reduce the feeling of subjective safety for cyclists.
Given that motorcycle/cycle collisions are conisderably rarer and less damaging than bus/cycle collisions, I wonder how you justify your so flippant dismissal of this argument?
I didn't actually do much campaigning on the motorcycle issue. I certainly share the view that it is a poor policy decision to permit motorcycles in bus lanes, but as 'safety' isn't, to me, a leading concept, I'm mainly interested in the issue for other reasons. My views on this don't create any inconsistency with my views on bus traffic.
Buses carry something like 30% of London's road traffic by passengers. If you were to divide the number of bus/cycle crashes by passenger trips and compare that to the number of motorcycle/cycle crashes by motorcycle trips and you will see that the former number will be much lower. Unlike motorcycling, buses are a highly capacious and effective mode of urban transport (obviously still not anywhere near as good as cycling). They are currently the only mode with enough political importance in London to generate a lot of specific facilities, which have contributed a great deal to cycling in London. I'm obviously aware that people have always complained about buses, and if you read carefully you'll notice that I didn't deny that there is a problem, but there certainly isn't a 'big' problem. As far as I'm aware (but note that I also said I'd be happy to stand corrected), there's simply no evidence to support that claim.
I'm not sure why you link to the Hembrow page--are you suggesting that I flippantly dismiss his (entire) argument on that page? Much of what he says about perception of danger is true, but as usual I lose him somewhere along the way and at some point out comes the bizarre and predictable conclusion that there has to be separation everywhere. Or at least that's what I thought it said, but I'm getting tired. :)
I didn't actually do much campaigning on the motorcycle issue. I certainly share the view that it is a poor policy decision to permit motorcycles in bus lanes, but as 'safety' isn't, to me, a leading concept, I'm mainly interested in the issue for other reasons. My views on this don't create any inconsistency with my views on bus traffic.
Buses carry something like 30% of London's road traffic by passengers. If you were to divide the number of bus/cycle crashes by passenger trips and compare that to the number of motorcycle/cycle crashes by motorcycle trips and you will see that the former number will be much lower. Unlike motorcycling, buses are a highly capacious and effective mode of urban transport (obviously still not anywhere near as good as cycling). They are currently the only mode with enough political importance in London to generate a lot of specific facilities, which have contributed a great deal to cycling in London. I'm obviously aware that people have always complained about buses, and if you read carefully you'll notice that I didn't deny that there is a problem, but there certainly isn't a 'big' problem. As far as I'm aware (but note that I also said I'd be happy to stand corrected), there's simply no evidence to support that claim.
I'm not sure why you link to the Hembrow page--are you suggesting that I flippantly dismiss his (entire) argument on that page? Much of what he says about perception of danger is true, but as usual I lose him somewhere along the way and at some point out comes the bizarre and predictable conclusion that there has to be separation everywhere. Or at least that's what I thought it said, but I'm getting tired. :)