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@mao
wiggle's dhb 3/4's are great for commuting. cheap but warm and comfortable. they wash well and last ages. the pad is great for the money.
don't reckon anyone needs to hose money at rapha or assos for commuting bibs, even 3/4's.
avoid shutt vr stuff unless you want bloody gobbets of gooch-meat dangling down from your crotch. even a short ride in those fuckers is like straddling a belt sander.