Nobody has ever been fined for entering an ASL, because it's not an offence. The offence is is failing to comply with with signs / markings, in this case the first line.
Yes, and this has to be witnessed by an officer to be enforced. (I don't know if CCTV evidence of the offence is admissible, but at any rate would probably be difficult to obtain--I suspect the camera would have show both the vehicle in the ASL and the current state of the lights.) It is lawful to stop in the ASL box if the lights turned red when the driver had already crossed the first stop line.
I've said this many times before, and I'll say it again, but I don't consider ASL infringements a great problem, partly as I think that there is a big logical mistake inherent in how ASLs are conceived--but it takes a while to explain. The issue that prancer highlights with this example, that of unequal treatment, is quite a different matter.
Yes, and this has to be witnessed by an officer to be enforced. (I don't know if CCTV evidence of the offence is admissible, but at any rate would probably be difficult to obtain--I suspect the camera would have show both the vehicle in the ASL and the current state of the lights.) It is lawful to stop in the ASL box if the lights turned red when the driver had already crossed the first stop line.
I've said this many times before, and I'll say it again, but I don't consider ASL infringements a great problem, partly as I think that there is a big logical mistake inherent in how ASLs are conceived--but it takes a while to explain. The issue that prancer highlights with this example, that of unequal treatment, is quite a different matter.