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    I was actually thinking....http://www.fudgescyclestore.com/index.php?p=105835 - but yes. I like those mini groups. Though I did work out that I can buy everything I need for a whole ultegra group (except cranks - keeping my s-works carbon jobs) - for £450 (including calipers).

    Conversely, Super Record Ergo levers are available for around £250, whilst Dura Ace STIs are £100 more, so it works both ways.

    true. I just seem to have had a hell of a lot of problems with Campag. I'm really fed up tbh - when it works it's great, but I just seen to have mechanical after mechanical - I'd really just like it to work, all the time, so I can ride my bike.

    Reminds me of people that buy stereos based on the niceness of the eject motion.

    Which is totally what I do.

    I just thought the amount of pressure he was having to exert was a bit unusual - my 10 speed record shifts better than that

    That is so plain wrong, Shimano STI and Rapidfire units fail all the time and are then useless, and you can only buy them in pairs, (as far as I know, anyway) and they are extremely expensive.

    I use both Shimano and Campag, and over the years have come to prefer the Italian stuff for a number of reasons.

    my experience shows otherwise - on road bikes, but also ran it on all my DH/mountain bikes and hammered the shit out it, bar a few bent mechs (par for the course with mtb) I've had fuck all problems with Shimano . Horses for courses...

    Could we restrict the holy wars to just the BB axle system on this thread?

    yes, my fault. Carry on...

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