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I'm out of the Campag game - I've had enough.
It looks pretty but nothing works with anything else, everything costs a fortune to replace and I'm not convinced that Shimano or Sram don't produce more robust, easy to maintain groupsets. I'm so sick of replacing and fucking around with stuff - I just want it to work
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shot in the dark but us at mercian have the correct tools for removing these.
campag dont make a tool we had to buy aftermarket ones.
why make a design without the tools to remove?? i dunno
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Personally I like the fact that it's a standard tool rather than a bike specific tool and they're not exactly expensive.
Edit. Okay, this bit is expensive but I'm sure it would be possible to use something of the same diameter.
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I agree its not good, but I dont think its terrible. The puller is annoying as its a new tool, and adds 15 quid to the part, but I can get a 2010 ultra torque Athena crank (they're still around) for cheap, and it doesnt seem worth the hassle of selling on the power torque for a heavier, marginally more convenient part.
The change from ultrashift to powershift seems a much bigger deal. I'm actually wondering if I can put the Athena levers on a chorus STI, but I suspect they'll be incompatible.
Anyhow - MercianMechanic - do you know the 'lip' width on your puller so I can make sure the one I pick up will fit behind the crank ok?
Ta.
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Personally I like the fact that it's a standard tool rather than a bike specific tool and they're not exactly expensive.
Tits. I wish I'd bought one of these instead of hacksawing off a crank recently after mashing the threads. £15!
The Campag part is pricey, but their tools (and parts in general) are quality. A bit like buying tools by Park.
Every company makes some goofy mistakes fro time to time. Campag Delta brakes have always been bitched about to some extent, but they're so sexy that we let them get away with it.
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Key advantage with Campag is that it is lighter- it carries no weight of expectations, in terms of value for money, technical prowess, general not-resting-on-laurels and so on.
You study, become a dentist, then buy Campag due to it's history and perceived quality.
They probably have a unit for it, next to flirting with the hygienist and buying a convertible Jaguar ASAP.
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I'm out of the Campag game - I've had enough.
It looks pretty but nothing works with anything else, everything costs a fortune to replace and I'm not convinced that Shimano or Sram don't produce more robust, easy to maintain groupsets. I'm so sick of replacing and fucking around with stuff - I just want it to work
'Fully Servicable' was the name of the game for Campag before. You paid a little extra, but you could buy every part and maintain things yourselves. But this died a little with 11 speed, where campag seem to have joined the disposable market to some extent.
They are still fecking sexy, and comfortable to use though, and my SR makes massive clicking noises, to compliment my load buzing freewheel.
Lovely.
The Sound of Campy's Super Record US-Ergopower 11 Speed - YouTube
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Yeah I've got record 10 - and it is all fully service-able...
.. but as scherrit said when Corinne was dismantling my ergo levers to replace the broken springs "fully serviceable is great - but Shimano sti's never need servicing"
Which is what it comes down to - I just want stuff that works consistently.. and when it does wear out I don't need a personal loan to replace like for like. Currently I need to replace my Record 10 speed rear mech - and despite the fact that it was replaced by a 11 speed component some time ago, the old part is still more expensive than the new one. Not to mention that at £250, it's £120 more expensive than a Dura Ace mech -which is just fucking bonkers
That video is odd by the way.
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Dan- the answer
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PowerTorque is definitely looking to be one of Campag's classic failures, the worst of all possible worlds. So glad I equipped all my bikes with Mirage/Veloce UltraTorque at rock bottom clearance prices.
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Although I do have a tool which would get PowerTorque cranks off, having bought it to rebuild a Kawasaki gearbox some 20 years ago, item 7 in the attached diagram. Available for a small fee to any PowerTorque victims who need to use it.
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Which is what it comes down to - I just want stuff that works consistently.. and when it does wear out I don't need a personal loan to replace like for like. Currently I need to replace my Record 10 speed rear mech - and despite the fact that it was replaced by a 11 speed component some time ago, the old part is still more expensive than the new one. Not to mention that at £250, it's £120 more expensive than a Dura Ace mech -which is just fucking bonkers
Conversely, Super Record Ergo levers are available for around £250, whilst Dura Ace STIs are £100 more, so it works both ways.
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That video is odd by the way.
Reminds me of people that buy stereos based on the niceness of the eject motion.
Which is totally what I do.
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[QUOTE=.. but as scherrit said when Corinne was dismantling my ergo levers to replace the broken springs "fully serviceable is great - but Shimano sti's never need servicing"[/QUOTE]
That is so plain wrong, Shimano STI and Rapidfire units fail all the time and are then useless, and you can only buy them in pairs, (as far as I know, anyway) and they are extremely expensive.
I use both Shimano and Campag, and over the years have come to prefer the Italian stuff for a number of reasons.
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Could we restrict the holy wars to just the BB axle system on this thread?
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Anyone got a recommendation for getting the left crank off? Otherwise I'll try the below, and hope, when the time comes. The bolt isn't self extracting, but it seems fairly straight forward - I just have no particular need for a gear puller other than this... ;-p
http://cpc.farnell.com/draper-tools/13906/2-leg-gear-puller/dp/SI14045