Football

Well played Liverpool. Hard done by on the first goal, offside and a horrific OG. But down to 10 men and then trying to get the goal back, we were wide open, and Suarez is a hard man to keep out.

Stupid from Manny.

Tom was the best player on the pitch, Carrol looked poor the whole game (touch, out muscled, out jumped) Suarez looks much more threatening. Enrique bossed Theo, was very impressed with him, looks to be good business.

Pole in the goal, I think looks like a real deal, and we could finally have a keeper to contend with the best (Reina, Cech etc).

3 players sent off in 2 games is madness, coupled with our injuries, I think most squads would be stretched at this point. Andrei couldn't get involved, and RVP was easy pickings for Carra and Agger.

I still think we are 4-5 players short.

in fairness my Nan could boss Theo, and RVP had no service. Liverpool looked better than last season and only won because we didn't get men forward but i was happy with that. the atmosphere good - the boo boys going on about Wenger spending money got shut up by the real fans and we saw a glimpse of some real quality. Frimpong has enough to keep Song out the first 11 - give him a season, Jenkinson was sharp and good going forward and Miguel is a class act, unlucky with the OG but it wasn't his fault.

I would have been happy with a draw, but Ramsey struggled to get a foot on it, Arshavin and Walcott were pointless, if those three had better days we would have taken 3 points today.

We are in a bad way for Utd but this is a team that needs to bed down before we can start making the chances we used to, we are going to start bad and get worse before it picks up and we need luck with injuries but if we end the season with 4 or 5 star players from the youth set up as first names on the team sheet we are actually doing what Wenger set out to do and building a squad of quality players. 6 years gone what harm is one or two more if the end result is a core of great players - england players - that want to play for the club and want to play for each other.. Pisti will have closed the thread a good few times by then but i'll open a new one just to gloat