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@number6
tempo any good ? (this is not my pair - mine are cut slightly i thingk (i'll have to check ) VGC on collar and all way down to the corners):
http://www.velobase.com/ViewComponent.aspx?ID=3E4F508D-4E87-4AD0-8673-B1CF5778C22D&Enum=112&AbsPos=39
i'll photo if any interest . PM me