Epic fail

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-aNeMELaPc

I just do not understand diving, at all. Half the fucking world is watching you, with all kinds of viewpoints and lenses and intentions. Just play the fucking game.

This is screaming out - 'up yours'... ouch!.

Fucking hipsters... always got to do things differently.
Looks like it could castrate you

looks a bit like one of these:

that one's actually quite cool though

no danger of having a free sex change if you crash too.

Top Gear fakes electric car test

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/georgemonbiot/2011/aug/05/top-gear-bbc

Last Sunday, an episode of Top Gear showed Jeremy Clarkson and James May setting off for Cleethorpes in Lincolnshire, 60 miles away. The car unexpectedly ran out of charge when they got to Lincoln, and had to be pushed. They concluded that "electric cars are not the future".
But it wasn't unexpected: Nissan has a monitoring device in the car which transmits information on the state of the battery. This shows that, while the company delivered the car to Top Gear fully charged, the programme-makers ran the battery down before Clarkson and May set off, until only 40% of the charge was left.
How pathetically childish can they get?

Top Gear fakes electric car test

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/georgemonbiot/2011/aug/05/top-gear-bbc
How pathetically childish can they get?

I pray for a new bbc cheif, like Michael Grade who stopped Doctor Who dead off his own back, to do the same with Top Gear.

Total fucking knobknobs - unfairly tarnishing the reputation and future of the electric car industry.
Amen the Dr.Who stoppage - albeit 30yrs too late mind you

Clever Pun's status update post is superb

Total fucking knobknobs - unfairly tarnishing the reputation and future of the electric car industry.
Amen the Dr.Who stoppage - albeit 30yrs too late mind you

It's an entertainment show.
Anyone who bases their automotive choice on Clarkson's recommendation was never going to opt electric in the first place.

It's also one of the most profitable shows for the BBC as it is hugely popular world wide and they make ££ from foreign rights.

Finally, I am not sure any show could tarnish the FUTURE of the electric car industry - that's pretty much up to the electric car manufacturers to determine.

If the cars continue to last <7 years and cost 2x a petrol version then you are going to have to be a seriously wealthy environmentalist to waste money like that.

It's an entertainment show.

It's a self-deceiving pat on the back exercise for the bewildered.

It's also one of the most profitable shows for the BBC as it is hugely popular world wide and they make ££ from foreign rights.

That was a main point in the article, the BBC being forced to concede a lot of ground to top gear due to commercial demands.

If the cars continue to last <7 years and cost 2x a petrol version then you are going to have to be a seriously wealthy environmentalist to waste money like that.

In which case perhaps there wasn't any need for such a pantomime?

Driving the electric round a roundabout to run the battery down is reminiscent of the faked story that muslims want xmas renamed "winterval".

Their willful ignorance is astounding

I would guess that you are right in your assumption that a large proportion of top gear viewers are not the type of person who are going to be drawn to environmental arguments of any sort, but sadly this also EXACTLY the sort of person who is going to allow their opinion to be swayed by some ignorant twit who falsifies information for the sake of a cheap joke.

Would top gear really be that much less popular if the electric car managed to travel an unexpectedly large distance between charges? There have been several shows where the unexpected efficiency of a petrol car has been the very crux of an exciting story line. Why not so with an electric car?

Environmental issues in general (let alone the relative merits of electric cars) have a hard enough time gaining traction in a world obsessed with "balanced reporting" of issues, where one ill informed naysayer's opinion is taken to count as equal to that of almost every trained climate scientist. In my opinion it is the very viewers of shows like top gear (to stereotype) that are the ones very most in need of accurate education. If more people realised the depth shit hole we are burning ourselves into and had a greater awareness of the possible solutions then we might have a better chance of avoiding a cataclysmic disaster.

As for the price of electric cars the surest way of driving down price is to increase their popularity...Anyway, I'm getting boring... end rant.

But, deliberately falsifying and mis-representing information for the sake of cheap jokes makes them cocks no matter how you look at it.

Ewan I can't really fault any of your arguments I am just suggesting that Top Gear staging something and upsetting environmentalists is hardly Epic Fail it is more like "business as usual"!

I also find George Monbiot entirely obnoxious. He clearly hasn't watched the show.
The cars didn't "unexpectedly" run out of charge "leaving them stranded in Lincoln".
Viewers were most certainly NOT left with that impression.
I counted at least 3 separate shots of the charge-o-meter or whatever it is that shows the remaining range of the car.
Guess what? It's just like a fuel gauge. Car companies aren't that dumb.

There simply isn't any news here...

"Environmentalists". As if caring about your environment is a political stance?

No, you're right, it's nothing new that the makers and presenters and viewers of Top Gear are full of shit.

You're main complaint that George Monbiot is obnoxious seems to be a pretty simple case of shooting the messenger.

A messenger who hasn't watched what he is complaining about, but relies on second-hand paywalled accounts = poor journalism and poor argument.

Just ask HIM whether environmentalism is a politicised science or not!

Anyway - I didn't want to derail the thread and as a Top Gear viewer I am clearly full of shit.

i worked with a guy at glasto who went home before the finale in order to catch top gear..

http://www.ginity.com/images/Red%20carbon%20fiber%20cap.jpg

i worked with a guy at glasto who went home before the finale in order to catch top gear..

I kind of did the same thing the year Nirvana played reading... Saw Kurt come on stage in the blonde wig and wheel chair.. Listened to a few bars of the first song and just couldn't be arsed.. Went back to the tent..

and just couldn't be arsed.. Went back to the tent..

But that's the whole ethos of grunge. Kurt would have been proud*.

*wouldn't have give a shit.

total you had to be there kind of situation but it made us laugh enough that I drewed a pichur of it.

bike was freelocked outside the souths beers pub yesterday when mmccarthy spied it and had a quick look...

#csb

Did he put it down?

me going to xanders place of work for around 10am, alarm on for half 7, wake up and put my fucking annoying alarm on snooze, wake up again and do the same, wake up at 5 past 10 FUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.