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  • Also: Cretins and Morlocks who commute to London from Woking etc. Please stop talking about "water cannon" near me.

    Can't quite work out what point you are making. Water cannons should or shouldn't be used?

    As i see it: long term the root of the problem is the disenfranchisement that has been allowed to become so ingrained. Drain the swap of hopelessness it which this criminality has grown.

    But short term law and order must be maintained for the sake of all the rest of us. I'd prefer that it's done while respecting everyone's rights, but if that isn't possible then i'd tolerate justice getting quite rough about the edges to uphold the principle that 'you don't let them get away with it'. The only argument against escalating the police response is if it would make things worse, but right now police weakness is making things worse.

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