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Both frames come from Caldonazzo .. "Barbed Wire" (Gantanamo scheme) looks like a Marcelo and "The crayon one" (Ciavete - means f**k you in local dialect - scheme is hand painted by Pegoretti and is unique to this bike i.e. one scheme per bike) is a Responsorium. Pegoretti's are built with a dropped top tube to gain the stiffness without the looks of a compact which is why the head tube is extended.